Tag Lines???????????

[Captain Jay Kavanagh]

OK I need some input.

Tag Lines. Why? How?

Fished lures a little last year with some success and we will be fishing lures a little more this year.

I was just wondering what the deal was with tag lines.

Why do you use em and How do I rig em? Specifically is there a way I can rig tag lines with out messin up my ability to fish my halyards in the normal way.

Expert Lure fisherman chime in.

thanks,

[frankypettolina]

Reach out to the Melton's crew for this one. They will know the hot ticket for sure.

Oh and BTW, telll your pop I ran into big dave and he is putting the rig back together and fishing it himself out of OCFC this summer.

[Tricia Lynn]

I have had the opportunity to fish using tag lines and the work well for specific types of fishing. The idea of them is to limit dropback like when a line comes out of an outrigger clip. We were using them while wahoo and marlin fishing in Bermuda. We actually switched back over to regular outrigger halyards when we tuna fish.

They were rigged along the long rigger halyard, and they were crimped on the last eye of the outrigger. the tag weight has the halyard line and tagline running thru it. The outrigger clip must be above the tag weight as you are looking at it from the cockpit. When you want touse the tagline, you slide the halyard all the way to the top so the weight can slide freely up and down. Put your lure in the water and drop it back a tag lines length short of where you want it. attach a #64 rubberband twisted a few times around your line and then clip it to the tag line clip and let it go . The drag will slide the weight up the halyard and your bait will drop back into position. After a fish hooks up, the rubberband will snap and the weight will slide the tag line right back to the cockpit. Hope this helps

[TROPHY SPORTFISHING]

Jay yes they do work but i have switched back to aftco rollers since every day is different i can adjust my lures during the day or clear grass if need be w/out popping the tags. Didn't seem to hurt hook up ratio either.

[Baywolf]

I saw these used in HI. They ran it from the short rigger eye and pulled mainly heavy drag lures. The halyard line and the tag line both go through the weight so when you drop the lure in the water the drag of the lure slides the weight up the halyard to the eye in the short rigger position. When the release clip pops the weight slides back down both lines to the bottom position. They used a braid loop on the main line, Chinese handcuff method, which you can reposition for location in the spread. I thought about doing this a couple years ago but couldn't figure out the benefits over just using the short rigger where changing the lure position in as simple as cranking it in or dropping it back. When bill fishing you should see the fish and be on the rod before he gets there ready for the drop back or the tease. Just my 0.02$

[WAHOONBOX]

I saw these used in HI. They ran it from the short rigger eye and pulled mainly heavy drag lures. The halyard line and the tag line both go through the weight so when you drop the lure in the water the drag of the lure slides the weight up the halyard to the eye in the short rigger position. When the release clip pops the weight slides back down both lines to the bottom position. They used a braid loop on the main line, Chinese handcuff method, which you can reposition for location in the spread. I thought about doing this a couple years ago but couldn't figure out the benefits over just using the short rigger where changing the lure position in as simple as cranking it in or dropping it back. When bill fishing you should see the fish and be on the rod before he gets there ready for the drop back or the tease. Just my 0.02$

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[Patudo]

To add the sliding tag line weight (aka tagline/outrigger return), you got to cut the outrigger halyard. Slide the halyard thru the weight, then crimp it back to the clip where it was. Feed the outboard end of the tagline through the sliding weight and crimp it to the clip as you did with the halyard. Haul the clip to the end of the rigger, allowing the tagline to feed through the weight. If you haven't pre-measured your tag line, cut off the tag line about a foot below where it exits the weight. You can slide a cork ball on the tagline to reduce whipback before crimping the end of the tagline to either a black's clip if you're snapping it into a dacron loop on your mainline (which I prefer) or a foot length of cord if you prefer to use rubberbands.

edit: Baywolf replied pretty much as I was typing this

edit2: I find bigger lures chaff the line too much when run directly through a roller-troller and prefer to splice a dacron loop on the mainline when fishing heavy tackle so that the main line doesn't touch the clip.

[Foul Hooked]

Hey Marty, hopefully this drawing makes sense....

[WAHOONBOX]

BAYWOLF JUST CALLED ME.....

BUT NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND WHY...WHY SOME USE TAGLINES...AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHY I HAVE NEVER USED ONE...(MAYBE ONE TIME BACK IN 1929)

I THINK JAY WILL ALSO AGREE WITH ME AFTER HE READS THIS AND UNDERSTANDS THE SYSTEM

MOST CAROLIONA MATES ARE ALWAYS WATCHING THEIR BAITS....RELIGIOUSLY ........BUT

A TAG LINE IN MY INTERPRETATION IS A LAZY MANS WAY OF FISHING .....A TAG LINE CAN GIVE LESS "DROPBACK" ...OR.....ONE CAN ADD EXTRA SLACK IN THE LINE AT THE RELEASE CLIP FOR "MORE" DROPBACK WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING A ROD

SEEMS LAZY TO ME....BUT THAT IS MY THOUGHT HERE

THE WEIGHT JUST BRINGS THE RELEASE CLIP RIGHT BACK TO THE BOAT AFTER A STRIKE


PLUS ....YOU CAN ADJUST "EXTRA DROPBACK IN THE RELEASE CLIP IF YOUR YOUR MATE SLEEPS ALOT

HERE IS DRAWING NUMBER TWO OF HOW I INTERPRET BAYWOLF ON THIS SYSTEM

[Tricia Lynn]

Hey Wahoo , the tagline also needs to run thru the tag weight, the weight slides over both the halyard line and the tag line. When the fish hits and the tagline is free, the weight slides back in toward the boat bringing the tag line with it. Does that help ? In your picture, you have the tagline free, not running thru the weight.