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Master of all things wet
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Plywood State
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By request I have decided to go ahead and spill my guts on the basics of swording. This is not the deep seated intricate dedicated sword fereaks bible. Rather its a brief summary of how "I" do it. I make no claim to be better than some of the sharpies down here but I keep up with thempretty well. I have discovered that sticking to basics has served me best as chasing wild techniques and tricks has left me with nothing to show for it...
In order to go swording you need a few things. A boat that can get to them. a place to go to, and bait. No bait has produced more consistently for me than a nice fat squid... So lets explore how to take that slab of calamari and turn it into sword chow... First make your rig. Keep it simple applies here as I simply crimp a hook to a leader with some chafing gear, add a length of soda straw for a spacer and either a small float or weight to keep the rig from just pulling on through... I use about 10-12 feet of 250 sufix mono clear leader. The one place I do get a touch fancy is the hook. It gets a Linger-pitman 11/0... The straw is measured out against the propsed bait leaving enough room for float or weight. Next we need to get creative oun how to run that up so the leader comes directly out of the tip of the squid. Well I found a section of #10-12 wire foled in half to be about 18" long works just dandy. This gets inserted right in the very tip of the squid and run down theinside of the mantle til its just past the head... Once through take the unfinished end of the leader andrun a few inches through the end of the bent wire. Draw the wire back through the squid carying the leader back through with it... Now pull the leader through and the rig into the mantle. Take the hook and run it through the head. You don need or want to get a lot of meat on it. I try to just hook enough head to hold it. This keeps the hook exposed where it can more easily set in the swords mouth when he commits to eatin it. I take the next step to avoid soft eating swordies from just pulling the squid down and leaving you with a calamari baseball. I run a rigging needle with about a foot of wax line through the tip pof the squid behind the leader. Then I do a cris crossing wrap around the leader back and forth for a bit over an inch of nice tightly pulled crossovers. I finish it with a sing half hitch, pull tight, and trim. Once thats tone I crimp the unfinished leader end . Now we got the bait being the hard part done. With that we add a light stic using a rubber band and prepare your weights (12, 16, 24 oz ) with bands... |
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Master of all things wet
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Plywood State
Posts: 10,730
Credits: 3,109.9
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Home Port: Palm Beach
Best Catch: Mrs Deep
Occupation: Killin Stuff
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The hard part is done. Now lets go fishing... Run on off shore til you hit at least 1100-1300 feet of water... Me I prefer 1500. Figure out what influence current and wind will have on the drift by doing a test drift and reading you gps. Re set to angle and get the most good ground coverage you can.
Structure is not the end all but there does seem to be some value to it especially where it causes upwelling and forces bait higher in the column. I set out a bait about 40 feet before attaching a weight. The firs one to go in will be set with 16 oz of lead and about 1/4-1/3 of a 50w spool. Use good tackle. I often will break out the tiagras for this as they are tough and wont give up the ghost on the very tough swordies... I set that one out first then set it in the out rigger clip which has been laid out on the up wind side of the boat. The next one that gets done is the 24oz which goes the same distance out but the weight carries it deeper. I run that on a bent butt off the corner to keep it seperate. The 12 oz bait gets set out about 200' from the boat and I set that rod up in the down wind rigger . A fourth flat line will be set out with no weight maybe 50-60 feet from the boat... |
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I'M SPEECHLESS
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MOREHEAD CITY NC 28557
Posts: 13,919
Credits: 11,340.8
Boat: I AM A FREELANCER
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Occupation: OFFSHORE MATE VIDEOGRAPHER
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I'M SPEECHLESS...............BY FAR THE SINGLE MOST INFORMATIVE-PICTURESQUE RIGGING SEMINAR WE HAVE HAD TO DATE......
DEEP YOU HAVE OUTDONE YOURSELF HERE!!! I FEEL LIKE RIGGING ONE MYSELF AND DROPPING IT OUT MY OFFICE WINDOW |
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Fish the Edge
Team Sportfishermen.com Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bear, DE
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deep c that was very cool of you
to splain this to us. I have that baby in the files already..thanks |
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Master of all things wet
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Plywood State
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The bite...
Once the spread is set (about 20 minutes before suunset) down here at least be ready for action. Have felt baits doinked on the way down while setting on a regular enough basis to almost expect it.
Swords have the funkiest bite of any big fish I know of. Some times they just tap the bait like a toy. Sometimes they will grab one and move around so slow you dont know they have picked it up. Other times yet that may just mash the crap out of it and set the reels to smoking. Since most bites though are subtle I set the reels with clicker on and just enough drag to keep them from free rolling out. Watching the tip is a help. Sometimes even that soft bite will cause a slow bend or the tapper may telegraph the signal back up to let you know one is there. Some times they drop the bait. I frequently will reel a bait up and let it back out almost as a slow jig. I can't tell you how many times they have snuck up on me. I'll be looking out into the night and see the glow of a lightstick just swimming around out there... It kills me with embarassment but this is swording and all is fair if you get one.When they do take it I give maybe be a couple seconds of no pressure then push the drag up to 12-14lbs of strike. Wind until I come up to that drag level and swat them three good strokes. The stretch in that much line usually is pretty forgiving and wont tear the hooks out. I do not recommend more than say 18 max pounds on swords as they g=have soft mouths. Their runs can drop your jaw with the speed and strength they can develop and more than 18 has pulled just too many hooks for my liking. Fights can vary. I have had them swim easily to the boat then hit the after burners. I have had them hit the afterburners for 3/4 spool four or five times on one fish. I have had them dog and just stale mate for hours. Even a 50 lb sword can convince you you just stung a 200 lb bluefin. In this shot you see our nagler using a bent butt from a chair. As comfortable and easy as this is, it can be a problem. Swords do a lotof straight up and down and standing up really gives you more room to stay off the edge of the boat. I highly recopmmend that the angler get into a pace rather than burn himself out. If you try to "Beat" a sword you will lose... Period end, they are stronger than you or I. Not one to lock ego with because they will win. Steady is the game... Steady pressure from the rods glass and your ass will take advantage of the fish's mistakes. Eventually that glow stick comes back into sight and its time to get ready. Flyers or darts are a must have on the bigger badder ones but for those to 125class they get a 5" aftco straight to the head. One shot, lift and GET THAT BILL IN HAND. Do not let it go. Keep the motion fluid and take him to the deck one shot. I do a knee drop around their gills and press that bill of death flat to the deck. A hand or towel over the eye will help keep them a bit calm. The knee drop turns to a sit on for several minutes. I discount their intelligence quite often with a good old fashioned skull slittin with my d-cell Brinkman flashlight. Last edited by Deep C; 04-03-2006 at 09:00 PM. |
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I'M SPEECHLESS
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MOREHEAD CITY NC 28557
Posts: 13,919
Credits: 11,340.8
Boat: I AM A FREELANCER
Home Port: MOREHEAD CITY, NC
Best Catch: PONEYTAIL
Occupation: OFFSHORE MATE VIDEOGRAPHER
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I PRESUME THAT YOU LIKE THE GOLD OR YELLOW LITE........???
AND THE LIN-PITMAN HOOK.....THIS IS A COMMERCIAL GRADE HOOK AVAILABLE WHERE? WHAT DOES A CHARTER RUN FOR THE SWORDS...AND WHEN DO YOU GO TO TARGET THEM? |
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Stop staring at my Avatar.
Join Date: Jan 2005
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BEAUTIFULL
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U have it down tight, my man. A true Southern Swordie way of WACKN N STACKN those beaut's. Bravo on teaching the way of the swordie ! WACKM N STACKM Joseph B...aka...Ancient Mariner
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Master of all things wet
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Plywood State
Posts: 10,730
Credits: 3,109.9
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Home Port: Palm Beach
Best Catch: Mrs Deep
Occupation: Killin Stuff
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Ok I'm done editing and blabberin... On to question answerin.
Box... No... My prefered color of light is green green and green. I out produce all others combined by 3:1 with green. Now you can go out and spend a few hundred buchs on a fancy hydroglo or you can be like me and spend $30 on a shorty like this so long as it is green! If you stick with green hopefully you rigged baits look like this the next morning! Scorched earth baby! I want no bait I spent all that time rigging to come home. I want the rigs sucked clean and ready for reeee loadin! ![]() Last edited by Deep C; 04-03-2006 at 09:09 PM. |
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Master of all things wet
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Plywood State
Posts: 10,730
Credits: 3,109.9
Boat: Several
Home Port: Palm Beach
Best Catch: Mrs Deep
Occupation: Killin Stuff
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Since the swords feed early around here its almost a shame to just run out and set up. Get one and go home. Usually I like to do a combo trip where we just troll on out to the sword grounds and then set up. Those trips run $600 and the new Mako I'm running will be a straight shot deal. Run out and do the swording and come home. That runs $500.
Down here the bite is year around. I have caught them in every month. Last fall there was a load of them here. So you might say Sept - November is a bit better but all year is good. Late May really has the most consistent good calm and thunderstorm free weather of the year... I'm taking Sea Biscuit in very Early June and plan on rocking the swordies world! AS for the LP hooks I'm not sure who on here has them. I get them from a first class shop here in town. If anybody needs them they can give me a shout... LP makes a strobe light thats popular and a couple models of other clip on lights. Too expensive for my blood but thats what the local sharpies use. Again I canpick up if anybody wants... |
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Stop staring at my Avatar.
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Staten Island,N.Y.
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excellent post thanks for all the great info
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