Striper Carniage Poachers fined

[fowlscay]

Theses guys were beyond blatant !!! anybody in the inlet parking lot could see them fishing on a Sat/Sun these guys make hard for the guys who don,t cheat !!!!

[jtocean]

He had other commercial licenses on his boat that day so technically he was allowed to catch more than the 1900#'s but fishing on Sunday was a bad move and he did go over by 168lbs, so this was a stupid mistake.

I agree the fine should have been more than $250 bucks.

[Capt. Terry]

OK GUYS YES THE BOAT IS OUT OF CAPE MAY, NJ.
YES THEY DID GO OVER BE LESS THAN 17 LBS....., WHICH THIS TIME OF THE YEAR IS WHAT ......LESS THAN 7 FISH WHEN MOST OF THEM ARE 36" TO 43"......SLOBS THAT AVG. ABOUT 24 TO 27 LBS EACH DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE POOR FISH.......
THIS IS JUST A BUSINESS MOVE LIKE NEIL SAID.

THIS IS THE KIND OF $HIT THAT PUTS ATTENTION ON ALL THE COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN, ..........1 OUT OF 25 PROBABLY MAKE IRRATIONAL DECISIONS LIKE THESE.......AND TRUST ME THE GOVERNMENT ......IN EVERY OTHER TYPE OF FISHERY WILL STOMP THEIR A$S WITH FINES SO BIG IT'LL PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.......LIKE NEIL SAID WITH THE FEDERAL SCALLOP FISHERY.....10 LBS OVER OR 1 LB. OVER - THE MESSAGE IS BEND OVER....

I HAVE TWO GOOD FRIENDS THAT HAVE THE SCALLOP PERMITS ON OLD CONCH BOATS AND THEY HAVE BEEN RAPED BY THESE FINES WHEN THEY WERE UNDER 10 LBS OVER THEIR QUOTA AND AFTER FIGHTING IT AND LOOSING IN COURT......THEY HAD TO REFIANANCE THEIR HOUSES BOTH OF THEM TO CONTINUE TO FISH THE REST OF THE SEASON.......

I KINDA HELD BACK ON POSTING ON THIS THREAD BECAUSE I AM ONE OF THE FEW WHO TOGGLES ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS FENCE....I FISH BOTH RECREATIONALLY AND COMERCIALLY - SO WHAT DOES A FELLOW IN MY SITUATION SAY HERE.......I SAY THAT THE FINE IS TOOOOOOOOOOO LOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

LET'S FACE IT AS A COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN, IT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW THE LAW. IF IT SAYS IT IS ILLEGAL TO COMMERCIAL FISH FOR ROCKFISH IN MARYLAND ON THE WEEKEND LIKE IT DOES AND YOU DO IT - LET ALONE IN SIGHT DISTANCE FROM THE COAST GUARD STATION - YOU SHOULD BE PREPARED TO FACE THE MUSIC......KNOW THIS IS JUST BULL$HIT - A $250.00 FINE.....

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW $HIT ABOUT FISH PRICES THATS - JANUARY AVG. ABOUT $2.60/LB. x 3000 LBS...........UMMMMM LETS SEE HERE ON A $7800.00 JOB - HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD ONLY LIKE TO HAVE AN EXPENSE OF $250.00 UP FRONT MINUS FUEL OFF THE TOP (WHICH BY THE WAY AIN'T MUCH TRUST ME WITHIN 3 MILES OF THE INLET .......

SO MY POINT HERE IS THAT THE FINE FOR A STUPID DECISION TO BLATENTLY BRAKE THE LAW IN THE PUBLIC EYE WITHIN 3 MILES OF THE BEACH SHOULD FLAT OUT BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN $25,000.00 TO $250,000.00 DEPENDING ON WHAT JUDGE THEY GET FOR THE DAY, IF THE JUDGE DIDN'T GET ANY THE NIGHT BEFORE,........OR IF THEY GOT THE WRONG LAWYER.........

LET ME TELL YOU WHO THESE GUYS REALLY WERE THAT WERE ALL ON THE BOAT AND THAT BLATENTLY BROKE THE LAW AND THEN YOU MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT $250.00 IS GOING TO CRUSH THEM OR NOT......

COULBERN SEAFOOD OUT OF SECRETARY, MD. IS ALSO KOOL ICE SEAFOOD OUT OF HURLOCK, MD. WHICH IS ALSO KOOL ICE INC. OUT OF SEAFORD, DE. WHICH ALSO OWN 3 OTHER ICE PLANTS IN MD. AND VA. AND THE LIST GOES ON WITH RESTAURANTS INCLUDING THE SUICIDE BRIDGE RESTAURANT.......YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT LIBERAL JUDGES - THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT HALF THE LAW IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND ARE COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN IN SUITS AND TIES - ANOTHER WORDS THEY SIGN OVER THEIR ALLOCATION FROM THEIR LICENSES TO ANOTHER SMALL SELECT GROUP OF COMMERCIAL WATERMAN TO CATCH ALL THE ALLOCATION AND THEY ALL GET A SLICE OF THE PIE.
IT'S THE SAME WAY IN JUST ABOUT EVERY STATE AND NOT JUST WITH COMMERCIAL FISHING IT HAPPENS WITH SEWER PERMITS, WATER RIGHTS......ETC....AND THE LIST GOES ON.

I KNOW IT SEEMS TO SUCK TO SEE THEM GET AWAY WITH SUCH A SMALL FINE AND I AGREE THEY SHOULD GET SLAMMED INSTEAD OF GETTING A SLAP ON THE WRIST,......I JUST DO NOT HONESTLY KNOW THE ANSWER.

THE BOAT IS SET UP IN CAPE MAY, NJ BECAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO GET NJ PERMITS OUT OF STATE AND HARDER AS WELL, THAN IT IS IN MD BY THE WAY........

LAST YEAR I WAS ACCUSED MYSELF BY DNR OF GOING OVER MY LIMIT, AFTER I SOLD MY FISH IN OC, MD AT SOUTHERN CONNECTION SEAFOOD INC. 4 OFFICERS ALL BUT TRIED TO LOCK ME UP - I HAD MY I'S DOTTED AND ALL MY T'S CROSSD TRUST ME......I HAD CHECKED MY FISH IN TO A STATE WEIGH SCALE AND TAGGED THE STATE TAG THAT I ALREADY HAD IN EACH FISH AND I WAS STILL 78 LBS UNDER MY YEARLY QUOTA.....THEY ALREADY HAD THE TICKET WRITTEN WHEN THEY APPROACHED ME.

LONG STORY SHORT ON THAT ONE WAS THE STATE HAS A CALL IN SERVICE THAT EACH WEIGH STATION ALLOCATED BY THE STATE HAS TO REPORT ALL COMMERCIAL LANDINGS TO AT THE END OF EACH BUSINESS DAY. THE CALL IN SYSTEM IS STRAIGHT UP VINTAGE 1971 ......WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE WEIGH MASTER FROM THE WEIGH STATION CALLS IN ALL DAILY LOGS AND IT IS LEFT ON A VOICEMAIL SYSTEM. THEN THE NEXT DAY IT IS THE DUTY OF ONE EMPLOYEE OF DNREC TO LOG THEM ALL - NOW FOLKS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A $HIT LOAD OF LOG REPORTS ON A DAILY BASIS HERE FOR 106 STATEWIDE COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN.......
AFTER I WAS ARRESTED I KNEW THAT I WAS IN THE RIGHT - SO I CALLED AND ARRANGED A COURT DATE - GOT THE NAME OF THE STATE EMPLOYEE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO LOG IT ALL IN EACH DAY AND FOUND OUT THAT HE HAD THAT MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY THE SECOND WEEK OF MARCH IN 2008 OFF FOR VACATION - ?????

THE THING THAT PISSED ME OFF THE MOST HERE IS THAT NO ONE ELSE PICKS UP THE EMPLOYEE'S RESPONSIBILITIES??????????? IF A PRIVATE BUSINESS WAS RUN THAT WAY THEN, ......WOULDN'T THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS.....BUT THAT'S THE STATE GOVERNMENT FOR YOU.....AND THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN ITSELF.....

SO I GATHERED ALL THIS INFORMATION AND ALONG WITH PHONE RECORDS FROM MYSELF AND THE WEIGH MASTER FROM THE WEIGH STATION......I PROCEEDED TO GO TO COURT ON THE SCHEDULED DATE........WELL AFTER TWO GAME WARDENS (DNR OFFICERS), PROVIDED THEIR CASE, EVIDENCE, THE JUDGE LOOKED AT ME AND I SHOWED HER EXHIBIT J, L, AND K..........CASE DISMISSED THE JUDGE SAID

I WON IT WITH NO LAWYER.......... - THE DNR OFFICER IN CHARGE OF THE CASE FOLLOWED ME OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AND ASKED ME WHY I WASN'T A LAWYER......

I SAID - SIR I JUST PRESENTED THE EVIDENCE AND TOLD THE TRUTH....
THEY HAD PICTURES OF ME GILLNETTING AND TRANSPORTING WHAT THEY SAID WERE ILLEGAL GAME FISH ACCROSS STATE LINES.........
WHEN IT ALL BOILED DOWN TO IT THEY HAD PRESSURE FROM TWO CERTAIN ELECTED POLITICIANS WHO HAD RECEIVED PHONE CALLS FROM CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE RIGHT ON THE WATERFRONT - "WHO DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I WAS TAKING THERE FISH!!!!!!!!

I AM NOT SURE WHO IT WAS WHO CALLED IN AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I HOPE THAT I NEVER FIND OUT CAUSE THAT CASE COST ME ALOT OF HEADACHES, WASTED TIME IN PREP RESEARCH AND GATHERING EVIDENCE, AND NOT TO MENTION GAS MONEY..........BUT DAMN'T I HOPE THAT GOT THEIR EYES ON ME THIS YEAR,..........CAUSE THEY AIN'T SEEN $HIT YET AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED.......

CAUSE I GUARENTEE YOU THIS, - I WILL BE BY THE BOOK BUT IF IT'S LEAGAL - IT'S DEAD!!!!

BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT YOU GET WHEN A$SHOLES BREAK THE LAW LIKE COULBOURN........IT SCREWS IT UP FOR THE GUYS THAT ARE WORKING THEIR TALE OFF, TO A. MAKE ENOUGH TO FEED AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILY,
B. TO EMPLOY OTHER PEOPLE.............

AND MOST OF ALL TO .......
C. FEED AMERICA......

SO AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE .........BURN THE ILLEGAL ONES SO BAD THAT IT SHUTS THEIR BUSINESS DOWN - AND STAY OFF OF THE GOOD GUYS BACK.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY REALLY.

[neilinov]

CAUSE I GUARENTEE YOU THIS, - I WILL BE BY THE BOOK BUT IF IT'S LEAGAL - IT'S DEAD!!!!

Best statement ever!

Terrry you crack me up man!

[Capt. Terry]

NUFF SAID RIGHT...

BY THE WAY HOW IS MR. DONNIE COMING ALONG IN THE PAST FEW DAYS? JUST WONDERING AND DAD WANTED TO KNOW AS WELL OK.