SPIDER VIDEO DREDGE & BAR IN ONE!

[Captain Fred Archer]

Is it a lightweight dredge? Uh, huh.

Is it an all-speed spreaderbar? Uh, huh.

That's right, it's both!

AND, you can actually catch fish on it.

Here it is...(Please note, our underwater camera is obscured by too many bubbles and such at faster speeds. To get a good idea of how a Spider trolls fast on a downrigger or planer, check out the video shot of it running from up top.)

Click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcU4ASeoK9Y

[canyongear]

im sorry i just have to laugh at this...entire thread..

where's the orange glow?

Snickies even Billy Mays sponors paid for advertising.

Archer products work..otherwise they wouldn't sell..for pete's sake man..show some love to the people who bring the audience..

your not above the rest of us trust me..

I just calls' em as I seez em'...

name dropping is like being in a whorehouse with a $1000.00 bill you will get laid..

send SF.com a check..for pete's sake..get a signature ad like the rest of us "lowly souls" who have to navigate your unpaid for posts promoting your products.

[canyongear]

Would you rather I not renew my SF.com advertising and do as you do?

I prefer to support the website/magazine/blog/thread that I promote my products thru..

what say you..?

[lawaia]

canyongear - Why do you come on here out of the blue and try to start a pissing contest? I doubt Capt. Archer will respond - he's got too much class to do so.

Most folks visit a site like this to learn or share knowledge to hopefully become better fishermen and maybe even make new acquaintances and friends. The site grows in popularity because people come to read and learn from knowledgeable folks like Capt. Archer. When the site grows in popularity, then businesses want to advertise because many people will see their ads. People do NOT visit the site with their primary intent to see the ads alone. You've got things bass-ackward if you think that your buying advertising space is why this site is popular. In fact starting pissing contests like you seem to be trying to do turns off folks and reduces the site's visitors and members, detracting from the site's popularity.

The Admin is not complaining about Capt. Fred's posts so why are you other than to just start a controversy? See Admin's post here if you don't believe me:

Capt Fred Archer and SportFishermen

Admin recognizes the value of knowledgable contributors - here's a quote from another of his posts:

Originally Posted by Admin

I have spent hours on the phone with Fred and he is a really nice man. He has helped me with alot of behind the scene things over the last 2 years. He has taken a ton of his own time to help me with some really crazy things that have happened that none of you see. I like him and also get a ton of emails from people saying that they really like to read freds posts. Even though yes, they have sales pitches in them he does try. We could take this back to anyone on this site. Why does canyon runner post reports and say he used a canyon runner bar. Do people think adams crew is posting reports for his health? No he is posting them to keep a presence for his company. Some are better at this kind of markiting then others, but hey that is life.
Everyone of you posts for a reason, Even you Sea Dragon. You use your sig to promote things and I have never asked anything of you. Its your way of paying for your time or just plan old keeping your name out there. The Internet world is full of opportunity and we all do what we do for our own reasons. Fred is a good man that has a style that some do not agree with but tons of people do like him. In my book if the man is taking time to write things weather you like it or not he is still taking the time to educate, and that is what I have always asked for. We can even look at marty where he posts about the box set or the riggin schools or the thumb dinger or offshore innovations or the sniper rod or stalker or the barta club. We all have reasons.

You need to grow up; your inferiority complex is showing. You make some nice looking stuff - why not just stand on their merits and let the reader/customer decide what they want?

OK, everyone get on their earmuffs 'cause there surely will be a hateful, insult-filled rant coming. Did I say someone needs to grow up?

Aloha and OUT.
lawaia

[canyongear]

BUY AN AD LIKE THE REST OF US.

How's that. Is that clearer.

No hate..just facts.

All those businesses mentioned are now advertisers here.

[Anders]

CANYONGEAR- I really enjoy reading your post from your three boats going out. I enjoy the pics of fish, lures, tips, comments, and everything positive you contribute.

BUT, the more and more I see of you hating on people, fighting with people, arguing, people saying negative things about you, turn me off. People who people don't have problems with are usually good people, and people who usually have problems with other people are usually problem people.

It is SFC's problem if they don't like how Fred is doing things. Don't ruin your name by bashing people.

FRED- Thanks for sharing your information and sorry your thread was ruined.

[canyongear]

Anders..your right and wrong. I don't bash others products in threads they start to promote their products, wouldn't do it and won't.

However, when a non-paying advertiser, bashes a paying advertisers products, I have a problem with that. Either directly or thru others.

That's it in a nutshell.

If you want the right to promote products, you pay for it.

If I am wrong, then Admin, can tell me im wrong.

[Notorious]

I completely agree with you Canyongear!!! Blatant "spamvertising" is all I ever see from this guy...

[Anders]

Anders..your right and wrong. I don't bash others products in threads they start to promote their products, wouldn't do it and won't.

You are bashing Archer's product right now by posting this in his thread, whether directly or indirectly. If you don't like what he is doing, I would suggest sending him a PM, or send admin a PM, but going about it like this, I think, again, my opinion, you will do more harm to your name and reputation than anything else. Just a suggestion.

[canyongear]

Notorious,
Thats, not true. Fred shares tons of knowledge with people, freely and with the non-paid advertising mixed in. It's not all spam as you state.