Owner Circle Hook Issues - Page 3

Beatsworkin' · 08-12-2008, 02:32 PM

Here is a PIC of one. More than half of the barb is missing.

TROPHY SPORTFISHING · 08-12-2008, 04:43 PM

My guess is they are using something different in there steel formula or something in the process is flawed. Never had that problem before, all mine broke off on first use straight out of package some were only in the water 10-15 minutes.

sportfishingusa · 08-12-2008, 04:45 PM

Now that the problem has been identified... can someone let us know if this actually effects to function of the hook as far as backing the hook out of the jaw bone is even possible with that little bit of barb?!!?

has anyone had the actual point break? going to be practicing for next year for the next several months and dont want to use them if this completely screws with the entire integrity of the hook....

Qualifier Chris · 08-12-2008, 08:06 PM

Did nobody hear me? I have been using them for years. This year we have caught over 750 billfish on circle hooks. There are no problems with their effectivness.

Remember what I said, They are disposable hooks not ment to last any amount of time. They get salt water on them and it starts to do its magic. If you get two days out of them consider yourself lucky. They rust, the barbs break, the point wears down, they don't have a welded eye. Don't you think a hook that has these qualities will do wonders on a released fish?

Keep practicing with them they are extremely effective. Good Luck.

Glenn W · 08-12-2008, 08:19 PM

Chris, I think maybe you misunderstand Whitey's observation. It is not whether the circle hooks do or don't hook fish, it is a matter of the barbs disintigratingon NEW hooks in a short time on the troll. I can asure you that Whitey's observation is with new hooks as he disgards them after a single use ( at least in a tournament situation as observed).

whitey · 08-12-2008, 08:22 PM

Chris I do throw all my circle hooks out after each trip but with the Owners they are only lasting a few hours before they start to fall apart and at almost $1.00 per a hook it starts to add up fast when you have to replace them every few hours.

Qualifier Chris · 08-12-2008, 09:06 PM

I have not heard of them falling apart new while trolling. Sorry I misunderstood you. I have had problems with my owner jigging hooks now that I think about it. It is only on the new ones I have bought, and on the lucaneus jig.

albemarle305 · 08-12-2008, 09:37 PM

2 years ago we were using regular j hooks trolling ballys and caught like a 8 pound dolphin. we sling the fish in the boat and during the sling the fish comes off and lands in the cockpit. We thought the hooked pulled but no IT BROKE. on a little dolphin. Then broke one on a decent YFT. We thought we must have gotten a bad batch because they were back to back trips. but Won't use them again...

Russell A. Jost · 08-12-2008, 10:09 PM

Thanks for the heads up on the OWNER circle hooks. I will be sure to check my tackle box before next weeks ma500.

Sterling · 08-12-2008, 10:21 PM

Good info on not trying to get too many days out of any circle hook. I'm currently using Eagle Claw's and noticed that it was time to replace most of them after a couple days of trolling.

Some were still fine, but, better safe. Falling apart same day is a whole other issue...and not a good one.

My over-all experience with Circles has been good and I don't think this is a circle issue, but rather production or design. It will be good to see OWNER's response.

08-12-2008, 10:21 PM	#30
Sterling I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cape May Posts: 1,096 Credits: 2,209.5 Boat: Tiara 3100 Home Port: Cape May, NJ Best Catch: Always looking for it Occupation: IT Management Consulting, IT Infrastructure Services, Internet	Good info on not trying to get too many days out of any circle hook. I'm currently using Eagle Claw's and noticed that it was time to replace most of them after a couple days of trolling. Some were still fine, but, better safe. Falling apart same day is a whole other issue...and not a good one. My over-all experience with Circles has been good and I don't think this is a circle issue, but rather production or design. It will be good to see OWNER's response. Last edited by Sterling; 08-12-2008 at 10:24 PM.

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08-12-2008, 04:43 PM	#22
TROPHY SPORTFISHING I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Myrtle Grove Sound, N.C. Posts: 1,179 Credits: 2,198.6 Boat: 46 Egg Harbor/ 198 carolina skiff DLV Home Port: Wrightsville Beach/ MHC N.C. Best Catch: 3 Blue Marlin and a Sailfish one day out of MHC and 750+ Blue 17 Whites out of Pirates Cove Occupation: Paying for my habit	My guess is they are using something different in there steel formula or something in the process is flawed. Never had that problem before, all mine broke off on first use straight out of package some were only in the water 10-15 minutes.

08-12-2008, 04:45 PM	#23
sportfishingusa I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,933 Credits: 9,412.1	Now that the problem has been identified... can someone let us know if this actually effects to function of the hook as far as backing the hook out of the jaw bone is even possible with that little bit of barb?!!? has anyone had the actual point break? going to be practicing for next year for the next several months and dont want to use them if this completely screws with the entire integrity of the hook....

08-12-2008, 08:06 PM	#24
Qualifier Chris "If at first you don't succeed, don't try skydiving" Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kitty Hawk, NC Posts: 124 Credits: 1,820.2 Boat: Qualifier Home Port: Oregon Inlet, NC Best Catch: 701lb. Blue Marlin, Super Slam, 60 sail in a day, a sword during day on troll Occupation: Mate	Did nobody hear me? I have been using them for years. This year we have caught over 750 billfish on circle hooks. There are no problems with their effectivness. Remember what I said, They are disposable hooks not ment to last any amount of time. They get salt water on them and it starts to do its magic. If you get two days out of them consider yourself lucky. They rust, the barbs break, the point wears down, they don't have a welded eye. Don't you think a hook that has these qualities will do wonders on a released fish? Keep practicing with them they are extremely effective. Good Luck.

08-12-2008, 08:19 PM	#25
Glenn W Motor Mouth Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 4,008 Credits: 3,317.5 Occupation: Moonbat	Chris, I think maybe you misunderstand Whitey's observation. It is not whether the circle hooks do or don't hook fish, it is a matter of the barbs disintigratingon NEW hooks in a short time on the troll. I can asure you that Whitey's observation is with new hooks as he disgards them after a single use ( at least in a tournament situation as observed).

08-12-2008, 08:22 PM	#26
whitey Deep C is my idol. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 3,353 Credits: 19,968.6 Boat: 48' Ocean Yacht Home Port: Cape May, NJ Occupation: mechanic, Wholesale sales for Stalker Outfitters	Chris I do throw all my circle hooks out after each trip but with the Owners they are only lasting a few hours before they start to fall apart and at almost $1.00 per a hook it starts to add up fast when you have to replace them every few hours.

08-12-2008, 09:06 PM	#27
Qualifier Chris "If at first you don't succeed, don't try skydiving" Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kitty Hawk, NC Posts: 124 Credits: 1,820.2 Boat: Qualifier Home Port: Oregon Inlet, NC Best Catch: 701lb. Blue Marlin, Super Slam, 60 sail in a day, a sword during day on troll Occupation: Mate	I have not heard of them falling apart new while trolling. Sorry I misunderstood you. I have had problems with my owner jigging hooks now that I think about it. It is only on the new ones I have bought, and on the lucaneus jig.

08-12-2008, 09:37 PM	#28
albemarle305 I caught a fish once :) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Indian River, Delaware Posts: 50 Credits: 1,496.9 Boat: Time Off.... 305 Albemarle Home Port: Indian River Best Catch: Ofcourse the one that got away!!	2 years ago we were using regular j hooks trolling ballys and caught like a 8 pound dolphin. we sling the fish in the boat and during the sling the fish comes off and lands in the cockpit. We thought the hooked pulled but no IT BROKE. on a little dolphin. Then broke one on a decent YFT. We thought we must have gotten a bad batch because they were back to back trips. but Won't use them again...

08-12-2008, 10:09 PM	#29
Russell A. Jost Stop staring at my Avatar. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cape May, NJ Posts: 373 Credits: 2,240.7 Boat: 41 Albemarle Home Port: Cape May, NJ Best Catch: Grandsons and Granddaughter Occupation: Electrical Contractor	Thanks for the heads up on the OWNER circle hooks. I will be sure to check my tackle box before next weeks ma500.