Owner Circle Hook Issues - Page 2

Beatsworkin' · 08-10-2008, 11:40 AM

I thought it was from Ed, picking crab shells from between his teeth.

reelaxin · 08-11-2008, 08:05 AM

I used Owner 5/0 and 6/0 two weeks ago in a sailfish tournament and every one had the same problem - 3 or 4 hours in the water and no barb at all. At first I thought it was the swivel wear causing it but we had the same issue when rigging dinks with monel.
I dont think the barb has a lot to do with a fish staying stuck but without it the bait will flip off the hook easily.
I have 30 or so left that are hitting the trash can tonight.

#1Gaffman · 08-11-2008, 10:34 AM

I also have been using the Owners. And started to notice the exact same thing, after a couple hourse use the tip of the hook seems to break off.

Captain Brian · 08-11-2008, 12:50 PM

I have taken the liberty and sent this thread to Owner in that I am on their pro-staff. They have received it and will have an answer shortly. I will keep everyone informed as to what I hear.

sportfishingusa · 08-11-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey

Half of the barb was comming off and it was enough to allow the hooks to fall out of the swivel so we were loosing baits on a regular basis.

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hope you didnt lose a bunch of bait heads!! then i would be steaming!!

whitey · 08-11-2008, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Brian

I have taken the liberty and sent this thread to Owner in that I am on their pro-staff. They have received it and will have an answer shortly. I will keep everyone informed as to what I hear.

Thanks Captain Brian. I hope they can get the problem resolved because I realy like the SSW and would like to continue using them.

TROPHY SPORTFISHING · 08-11-2008, 02:46 PM

Had same problem Andy just thought it was the hooks i had switched to 2004 ELF for the rest of the tournaments. Definantly aggrevating.

Qualifier Chris · 08-11-2008, 05:35 PM

Circle hooks are made to be desposable hooks. They are not made to last any amount of time. If you get 2 days out of them great. If you catch one fish on it great, throw it away. They are made to be cheap and not stay in the fish forever. Just use them once.

Mike15 · 08-11-2008, 06:13 PM

Owners and a few others including Gamakatsu's I have had this happen. THey only happen with Chemically sharpened hooks. If the tip of the hook is left in the chemical a bit too long it will weaken the tip and eventually later break off. Tis happens all the time with gamakatsu circles it seems. On a side note we straightened one of these owners on a white last week. Lost the fish. Circles have a loooong way to go to become as of an effective hook as J's.

sportfishingusa · 08-11-2008, 06:26 PM

I can say i have seen it before but not recently.. Your sounding good about the chemicals.. that would seem like it would effect it if you ask me..

Also i have not trolled them a lot but had not really had to much of an issue with the super mutu for chunkin and such...

I would like to see a pic of it!

Whitey you got a pic of it? want to see what it looks like.. i know what you mean but would still like to see a pic if someone has it!

08-11-2008, 05:35 PM	#18
Qualifier Chris "If at first you don't succeed, don't try skydiving" Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kitty Hawk, NC Posts: 124 Credits: 1,820.2 Boat: Qualifier Home Port: Oregon Inlet, NC Best Catch: 701lb. Blue Marlin, Super Slam, 60 sail in a day, a sword during day on troll Occupation: Mate	Circle hooks are made to be desposable hooks. They are not made to last any amount of time. If you get 2 days out of them great. If you catch one fish on it great, throw it away. They are made to be cheap and not stay in the fish forever. Just use them once. Last edited by Qualifier Chris; 08-11-2008 at 05:48 PM.

08-11-2008, 06:13 PM	#19
Mike15 Hide- My Wifes Logged On Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 150 Credits: 1,564.8	Adressing the original concern... Owners and a few others including Gamakatsu's I have had this happen. THey only happen with Chemically sharpened hooks. If the tip of the hook is left in the chemical a bit too long it will weaken the tip and eventually later break off. Tis happens all the time with gamakatsu circles it seems. On a side note we straightened one of these owners on a white last week. Lost the fish. Circles have a loooong way to go to become as of an effective hook as J's.

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08-11-2008, 08:05 AM	#12
reelaxin Got fish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 179 Credits: 1,729.4 Boat: 32 Ocean SS Home Port: Hampstead NC Best Catch: Miss Sue Occupation: Contractor	I used Owner 5/0 and 6/0 two weeks ago in a sailfish tournament and every one had the same problem - 3 or 4 hours in the water and no barb at all. At first I thought it was the swivel wear causing it but we had the same issue when rigging dinks with monel. I dont think the barb has a lot to do with a fish staying stuck but without it the bait will flip off the hook easily. I have 30 or so left that are hitting the trash can tonight.

08-11-2008, 10:34 AM	#13
#1Gaffman I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Avalon NJ Posts: 1,336 Credits: 2,151.4 Boat: Lizzanne Home Port: cape may Occupation: MATE	I also have been using the Owners. And started to notice the exact same thing, after a couple hourse use the tip of the hook seems to break off.

08-11-2008, 12:50 PM	#14
Captain Brian Salon puppy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fair Haven, NJ Posts: 112 Credits: 1,540.6 Occupation: Financial Adviser and Charter Boat captain	I have taken the liberty and sent this thread to Owner in that I am on their pro-staff. They have received it and will have an answer shortly. I will keep everyone informed as to what I hear.

08-11-2008, 02:46 PM	#17
TROPHY SPORTFISHING I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Myrtle Grove Sound, N.C. Posts: 1,179 Credits: 2,198.6 Boat: 46 Egg Harbor/ 198 carolina skiff DLV Home Port: Wrightsville Beach/ MHC N.C. Best Catch: 3 Blue Marlin and a Sailfish one day out of MHC and 750+ Blue 17 Whites out of Pirates Cove Occupation: Paying for my habit	Had same problem Andy just thought it was the hooks i had switched to 2004 ELF for the rest of the tournaments. Definantly aggrevating.

08-11-2008, 06:26 PM	#20
sportfishingusa I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,933 Credits: 9,412.1	I can say i have seen it before but not recently.. Your sounding good about the chemicals.. that would seem like it would effect it if you ask me.. Also i have not trolled them a lot but had not really had to much of an issue with the super mutu for chunkin and such... I would like to see a pic of it! Whitey you got a pic of it? want to see what it looks like.. i know what you mean but would still like to see a pic if someone has it!