NMFS Change in retention for Charter/Headboat Cat for September

Capt-D · 08-17-2005, 03:55 PM

NMFS ADJUSTS ATLANTIC BLUEFIN TUNA DAILY RETENTION LIMITS

http://www.nmfspermits.com/other/Sep...ion_notice.pdf

"NMFS adjusts the daily retention limit for the commercial General category and the recreational Charter/Headboat Atlantic bluefin tuna (BFT) fishery for September of the 2005 fishing year. See the library for a table listing retention limits and their duration. Persons aboard a vessel issued an HMS Charter/Headboat permit may retain and land BFT under the quotas applicable to the Angling category or the General category. The size category of the first BFT retained on an HMS Charter/Headboat will determine the fishing category applicable to the vessel that day. In addition to the daily retention limit, the Angling category trophy fishery for large medium and giant BFT (measuring 73 inches or greater) is open in all areas, with a retention limit of one fish per vessel per year. All BFT landed MUST be reported within 24 hours of landing to the www.nmfspermits.com website or by calling 888-872-8862 or, if landed in the states of North Carolina or Maryland, to a reporting station prior to offloading. Information can be obtained in North Carolina by calling (800) 338-7804, and in Maryland by calling (410) 213-1531. NMFS may determine that additional actions are necessary to ensure available quota is not exceeded or, to enhance scientific data collection from, and fishing opportunities in, all geographic areas. Subsequent adjustments to the daily retention limits, if any, shall be announced through publication in the Federal Register.

Swivel · 08-17-2005, 04:05 PM

i wonder if it will ever change for us anglers.

74Formula233 · 08-17-2005, 04:12 PM

Just another "exception"......can they make it any MORE confusing????

Well, it's easy for us HMS Angling category guys, SO FAR.....

I have a friend with the General permit, and he called NMFS directly, and someone working there told him he could take any BFT as long as it was 27" CFL (one per day tho). I told him the guy was wrong, that he can't keep ANY BFT under 73", and that he better check on it.....I even showed him the website with the regs.....he could have gotten screwed because one of their OWN guys told him very bad misinformation!

By the way, even our local DEM told him he was fine keeping any BFT 27" or larger (one per day). They don't even know the laws either, and are the ones fining guys at the ramps/docks for "violations"

These guys need to get their heads out of their asses and learn their CURRENT regs before adding MORE.

Swivel · 08-17-2005, 04:22 PM

arent the general category guys allowed one over 73" for the year?

Admin · 08-17-2005, 04:24 PM

Im confused i thought everyone is allowed 1 bft right now formula ? over 27 and under 73 .

Bob ECT · 08-17-2005, 04:24 PM

Private boats got screwed again.

Angling boats can keep one fish per year over 73". I guess they realize that's completely unenforcable and figure it's just one over 27"

General Category is the commercial category.

Admin · 08-17-2005, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swivel

arent the general category guys allowed one over 73" for the year?

Yes that was what i understood , is that we can get 1 a year over 73.

Caveman Sportfishing · 08-17-2005, 04:34 PM

Talked to contact at NE office of NMFS in MA about 10 minutes ago for clarification on regs. Same as before July 31. Three fish under 73 for charter-Headboats and two can be between 27-47 inches. I am not sure on this but rec's can get one 27-73 inch per day and one per giant trophy fish over 73 inches per year. I know many of you will find this unfair but I am just the messager and only hope some of these fish show up in our local waters real soon but right now most of the bigger bluefin are about 90 miles south of SJ. I expect some of these larger tuna to show up along the 30 fathom line around Hot Dog real soon if the bait is present or even at places like Massey's or the Hambone in September. Please take the extra time to call in your bluefin catch so accurate records are established. This is very important for all of us.
Capt John

Reelhope · 08-17-2005, 04:44 PM

capt. John,
Exactly how I saw this also.
No real change for the rec. 1BFT >27 and I trophy per year >73
........
Starting Sept. 1st
charter-2 between 24-47 and 1 BFT >47 and <73
Sorry for the same report, you beat me to it.
Todd

VDAWG1 · 08-17-2005, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reelhope

capt. John,
Exactly how I saw this also.
No real change for the rec. 1BFT >27 and I trophy per year >73
........
charter 2 between 24-47 and 1 per > 73
Sorry for the same report, you beat me to it.
Todd

It truely sucks for the angler catagory AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF !

Thats not how it was before July 31st .......

at least the way i read it was this for charter/headboats are were aloud

3 FISH PER DAY .
That only 2 of said fish Could be between 24'' to less than 47''
and 1 fish that HAD to be Between 47'' to less than 73''

Now with that said and the way its written

YOU CAN TAKE 3 fish all of wich are 47''to less than 73'' !!!!!

and 1 fish 73'' or over per Year

and if you take that giant ...Then thats it for the day !

Am i correct ? im Just trying to figure out if i have this correct

Captain John can you make this clear please .......

also does this change for Sept revert back to what was in place ,Before July 31st ?? Thanks you ,Vinny

08-17-2005, 03:55 PM	#1
Capt-D You have your ideology and I have mine! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Severna Park, MD/OCMD Posts: 2,998 Credits: 1,754.5 Best Catch: Mrs. Capt-D and Liam	NMFS Change in retention for Charter/Headboat Cat for September NMFS ADJUSTS ATLANTIC BLUEFIN TUNA DAILY RETENTION LIMITS http://www.nmfspermits.com/other/Sep...ion_notice.pdf "NMFS adjusts the daily retention limit for the commercial General category and the recreational Charter/Headboat Atlantic bluefin tuna (BFT) fishery for September of the 2005 fishing year. See the library for a table listing retention limits and their duration. Persons aboard a vessel issued an HMS Charter/Headboat permit may retain and land BFT under the quotas applicable to the Angling category or the General category. The size category of the first BFT retained on an HMS Charter/Headboat will determine the fishing category applicable to the vessel that day. In addition to the daily retention limit, the Angling category trophy fishery for large medium and giant BFT (measuring 73 inches or greater) is open in all areas, with a retention limit of one fish per vessel per year. All BFT landed MUST be reported within 24 hours of landing to the www.nmfspermits.com website or by calling 888-872-8862 or, if landed in the states of North Carolina or Maryland, to a reporting station prior to offloading. Information can be obtained in North Carolina by calling (800) 338-7804, and in Maryland by calling (410) 213-1531. NMFS may determine that additional actions are necessary to ensure available quota is not exceeded or, to enhance scientific data collection from, and fishing opportunities in, all geographic areas. Subsequent adjustments to the daily retention limits, if any, shall be announced through publication in the Federal Register.

08-17-2005, 04:24 PM	#5
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08-17-2005, 04:34 PM	#8
Caveman Sportfishing Crab mustard is good Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cape May, NJ, Morehead City, NC Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 790 Credits: 1,603.5 Occupation: charter captain	Bluefin Regulations as of Sept 1 Talked to contact at NE office of NMFS in MA about 10 minutes ago for clarification on regs. Same as before July 31. Three fish under 73 for charter-Headboats and two can be between 27-47 inches. I am not sure on this but rec's can get one 27-73 inch per day and one per giant trophy fish over 73 inches per year. I know many of you will find this unfair but I am just the messager and only hope some of these fish show up in our local waters real soon but right now most of the bigger bluefin are about 90 miles south of SJ. I expect some of these larger tuna to show up along the 30 fathom line around Hot Dog real soon if the bait is present or even at places like Massey's or the Hambone in September. Please take the extra time to call in your bluefin catch so accurate records are established. This is very important for all of us. Capt John __________________ Winter Schedule: Giant Bluefin Tuna Dec-Jan Morehead City, NC and Virginia Beach Trophy Stripers Feb-March We are all about having a great day on the water on one of the newest and finest charter boats on the East Coast. Web Page: www.cavemansportfishing.com e-mail: cavemansportfishing@comcast.net Cell (609) 425-1970 Home (609) 861-2388 Last edited by Caveman Sportfishing; 08-17-2005 at 04:39 PM.

08-17-2005, 04:44 PM	#9
Reelhope Sit down Shut up And fish Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PA and OCMD Posts: 591 Credits: 1,226.2 Occupation: Cardiac Perfusionist and Sales Rep for MP Lures and Catch Mo' Fish	capt. John, Exactly how I saw this also. No real change for the rec. 1BFT >27 and I trophy per year >73 ........ Starting Sept. 1st charter-2 between 24-47 and 1 BFT >47 and <73 Sorry for the same report, you beat me to it. Todd Last edited by Reelhope; 08-17-2005 at 05:51 PM.

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08-17-2005, 04:05 PM	#2
Swivel Salon puppy Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111 Credits: 1,216.9	i wonder if it will ever change for us anglers.

08-17-2005, 04:12 PM	#3
74Formula233 I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southern Rhode Island Posts: 2,087 Credits: 1,243.2	Just another "exception"......can they make it any MORE confusing???? Well, it's easy for us HMS Angling category guys, SO FAR..... I have a friend with the General permit, and he called NMFS directly, and someone working there told him he could take any BFT as long as it was 27" CFL (one per day tho). I told him the guy was wrong, that he can't keep ANY BFT under 73", and that he better check on it.....I even showed him the website with the regs.....he could have gotten screwed because one of their OWN guys told him very bad misinformation! By the way, even our local DEM told him he was fine keeping any BFT 27" or larger (one per day). They don't even know the laws either, and are the ones fining guys at the ramps/docks for "violations" These guys need to get their heads out of their asses and learn their CURRENT regs before adding MORE.

08-17-2005, 04:22 PM	#4
Swivel Salon puppy Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 111 Credits: 1,216.9	arent the general category guys allowed one over 73" for the year?

08-17-2005, 04:24 PM	#6
Bob ECT "If at first you don't succeed, don't try skydiving" Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 125 Credits: 1,236.1	Private boats got screwed again. Angling boats can keep one fish per year over 73". I guess they realize that's completely unenforcable and figure it's just one over 27" General Category is the commercial category.