Need Advice from Deep C

[Deep C]

I read it too and I also read that its only temporary... No telling... The islands are hurting for sure.We're gonna base the new boat over I'm thinking at Chub but they're butt deep in the tank too...

[alacrity]

deep c, why the concave lures? what element of these lures makes them more attractive than other shaped lures?

[Deep C]

A blue marlin has an eye about the size of between a golf and a tennis ball. They have though a bundle of pressure sensitive nerves the length of their body in the latteral line. They can pick up vibrations or "noise" from a long way away. Much further than vision alone.
The pop and gurgle of a concave has a pretty good cadence and since it runs well with bait I like to run them. If you remember though my big inside baits include a big slant. This bait trhows water good and high that lands with a "slap" type sound. The concave is a more constant sound where the slant produces more of an erratic one... The combination of running both should wake near by fish from their daylight semi sleep stages...

[alacrity]

deep c, thanks for the insight. i appreciate it.

[Deep C]

Always a pleasure...

There was a lot of life from 500' out on Sunday... All those small skippies and blackfins in the area is pretty good forage for the blue ones... We did see any of them but did find a sail...
I take it the mullet run was perkin a bit here too. Let them get on past and then take a look. A couple days before the full is my favorite at places like Chub but really havn't nailed a moon phase here that they are better or not......

[alacrity]

down here in miami there's been lots of action offshore, with lots of dolphin, skipjacks and some blacks being caught. i, unfortunately, have not been out because of work (not complaining!) and other commitments.

but the full moon in october is the 14th tuesday and i will be out that day hoping to raise a marlin, and i expect to be at the yellow can at first light to head off to the swordfish grounds to start dragging lures. why not?

[Patudo]

Hey guys,

Does the strength of the current make much of a difference to marlin fishing in your area, and does the moon phase have much of an additional influence on the strength of current when the prevailing gulf stream current is already so strong? I've picked up a couple of indications from NC skippers that a light current is preferred, would that be true in FL as well?

Alacrity asked about trolling north vs south and whether to zigzag. My rather generalized take is that by zigzagging or tacking (as I think of it), it lets you work your lures across current/sea direction for a greater percentage of the time, improving their presentation because you are not making them battle directly into the sea. If there is a bit of a sea running, your lures are going to swim better tacking into it rather than going directly up-sea - although you may want to do the latter to get back in position (for instance over structure) more quickly. Even working down sea I prefer to tack across the sea if the lay of the structure allows for it, because the lures can sometimes fly out and skid too much when going directly downsea as the boat fluctuates in speed. Tacking can also as Deep referred to in the other post allow you to cover a wider range of depths and distances offshore to inshore, which can be an advantage as you don't always know what depth or distance offshore you are going to find them.

Regards

P.

[alacrity]

patudo, thanks for the advice and thoughts about tacking. it makes sense.

[alacrity]

deep c, could you kindly opine on the wisdom or not of dragging a teaser. again, my goal is to fish for the elusive marlin on tues oct 14 (the full moon) off the coast of miami. i'll be headed out to the swordfish grounds and the humps out there.

thanks kindly.

[Deep C]

They do raise fish perfectly well. That is not an issue. The problem I have with "teasers" is that some times the fish we have here don't stay up long. You may only get the one shot and if thats the case I want steel there to greet her. The big slant and concave in my spread gets eaten regularly over in the pocket but over here they really serve as teasers andthe meat covered baits seem to get the nod most often...
Granted that a good heated up blue will attack stuff over and over and don't seem to care about hard or soft or whatever. Hell I watched one eat my favorite bowling pin, bust it off 400lb lanyard, then go eat a mack I had flopping behind it. That is the ideal bite but they seem few and far between here... I personally want steel in harms way ...
As for the sword grounds? Good as any... October 700-1800' is fair territory... that January run seems to be more like 1000- 1500 and February slides into like 500... Again no real magic number. Find the little blackfins or skippies and hang near there...