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Salon puppy
More SuperBar Wahoo!!
JT Special RuckusRaiser Still on Fire in Hawaii!
While originally spec'd with help from Captain Josh Temple to catch giant Yellowfin Tuna and Marlin in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico the JT Special has been slaying the Ono (Wahoo) and Ahi (Tuna over 100lbs) in the Islands this year!
Great job guys!!
Left Hawaii Kai to hit the ledges up to Makapuu. Left around 8.45 ,made it to the top Makapuu corner around 9.30 ,nothing hitting on the "speed' lures.
Set up to come back down and snap Archer Bar on starboard rigger comes down.
Just rerigged with Bomboy bullet as chaser.
Hit Hawaii Kai Ledge and center goes screaming. 4olb Ono in boat.
Washing boat by 1pm
Great day on the Malia Linda with Capt. Jerry
- Mark
Last edited by IglooMan; 07-27-2010 at 12:41 AM.
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Nice job on the hoo/ono/grinds.
Do you run a shorter leader on the chase bait with the Bomboy Baby Bullet or leave it standard length (14' for me).
The new Bomboy creations should work great as a SuperBar chase bait. They are about the same size as the small bullet, but the 'Mini-G' has a swimmer head and 'Da Vader' has a scoop head. SuperBar + Bomboy = Screaming Clicker!
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Salon puppy
Zanegler,
Thanks for the props! A good number of guys are running Hawaii's finest behind spreader bars for great results.
We recommend going with a shorter leader in order to enhance the effectiveness of the bar/lure combo. If the chasebait is too far back one will tend to have fish bypass the hooked bait and crash the teaser pod... This is due to the chasebait looking like a lone bait swimming by itself instead of the weakling trying to catch up to the school.
Running a short leader (~2-5ft depending on size of teasers/chasebait) keeps the fish focused on the straggler, and will up your catch ratio.
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Below are some more photos of fish caught this season on SuperBars run with "traditional" lures.
A couple of them, including the big Hoo in the panga, were taken using Bomboy Lures as chasebaits!
Photos courtesy of SuperBars Pro Staffers Courtland Pang, and Capt Mike Hennessy (www.maggiejoe.com) in Hawaii and The Fishermens Fleet in La Paz, Mexico (www.fishermensfleet.com)
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Thanks for the info. I am surprised about running a Bomboy THAT close. 2 - 5 feet. I was thinking maybe 10', but I defer to your experience in these matters.
I guess this means I need to rig a few Bomboys up with the short leaders as dedicated SuperBar chase-baits.
I would be interested to hear what others experience is with a spreader/chase-bait combo.
Always interested in learning. I'm a firm believer in whatever works!
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Zanegler - Chris is right about running the chase baits close to the teaser baits. What lure you use as a chase bait doesn't seem to matter as much as it's position. I've been doing well here on the East Cape on tuna this season with cedar plugs as the chase bait about 2 1/2 feet back, though my squid chase baits are normally even closer.
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Fat Cat - Thanks for the input. Wish I was down there fishing the East Cape Bisbee's. Any updates you can provide would be cool. I started another thread for that. Feel free to add any late-breaking info or pics you may have.
Do you pull any Bomboy's? I feel strongly that you would be impressed with them. The large Bullet in petrolero is money!
Put one behind a SuperBar and Hoo knows what might show up. Pun intended.
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As one who has designed, built, and more importantly, experimented with and fished spreaderbars for over two decades and literally thousands of days, I heartily concur with Igloo and Dat Cat when it comes to positioning chasebaits behind bars. With "bait configured" bars - ones with the chasebait the same size, but a different color than the teaser squids - a pretty standard and very effective distance behind the bar pod teasers is 2 1/2 to 3 lure lengths back. The same applies to "predator configured" bars. The main exception to that is with the very small bars that sharp anglers use for those frequent times when tunas are on little baits and won't touch bigger, "standard" sized lures. In this case we run the chasebaits no more than two lure lengths behind the teaser pod because tunas frequently gobble down some of the teasers on the main bar leader when they hit - kind of like you or me eating a handful of popcorn or peanuts, instead of just one at a time, and we get better hookup ratios running the little chasebaits close to the teaser pod.
I first learned NOT to separate teasers far ahead of the lures that you have chasing them when I used to fish daisy chains - lures that I quit fishing with years ago, when I realized that spreaderbars did the job far better. Move that teaser, in those days a little Moldcraft bird, too far in front of the lure chasing it and you wind up with a TWO lure scenario, and the bird often gets bit and the chasing bait ignored.
Anyhoo, food for thought from an old BarHead.
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My posting something after Captain Fred Archer has already done so is akin to my chipping in a couple pennies after he's already given a 1000 bucks, but for what it's worth here's my 2¢ regarding the short chasebait leaders.
Decades before I started using Archer bars, I and every fisherman I knew ran 12, 15, even 20 foot leaders in front of our lures, and we did OK catching fish. Then, the teaser bird made its debut and we all figured a bird making commotion in front of our lures might help get the attention of any fish in the area, so we stuck a bird at the end of our main line, in front of our 12-15-20 foot leaders. Yes, we got a few more strikes, but some of them were on the bird itself! I know several guys who had their bird (and some daisy chains too) hit by ono (wahoo) and some of those resulted in loss of the entire rig, bird, leader, lure, the works. I know guys who had a big ahi (YFT) on, only to see a second ahi whack their bird and break off the hooked one. I and several guys I know have experienced 'slammer' knockdowns on our 'riggers, only to realize that the fish hit the bird or daisy chain, not the lure.
So, after reading some of Captain Archer's books I tried shortening the leaders on lures I ran behind the birds. Lo-and-behold, my strike count went up and every one was on the lure, not the bird! After a period of time trying short leaders behind birds and finding that there was no drop-off in fish caught but rather an increase, I took the plunge and shortened all my lures' leaders. (A side benefit is that now a coil of leader goes a much longer way!)
With all my lure leaders short, and the bite up with false strikes on the birds down to zero, thanks to reading Captain Archer's advice, my confidence in his teachings led me to the next step, trying his SuperBars. And of course, I found he was right about them too! It was a kind of serendipity that with all my lure leaders already short, I now could use any of them as a chasebait behind his SuperBars. And the rest is history - we're catching fish and enjoying it! The SuperBars will enhance any lure run as chasebait (but cost-wise ya can't beat the hollow squid that come with a SuperBar!).
And that's all I got to say about that!
Aloha, tight lines for all!
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