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    Knot question

    What is the knot strength of a palomer knot?

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    What has worked for me is to take time and practice all the knots and then pull the crap out of them on a scale to see which gives first, the line or the knot.

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    this might help you out.i read somewhere that the palomar knot strength was near 99%.it won last years knot wars on a fishing tv show(cant remember which one)


    http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techn...sis-53416.html

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    The palomar tests in the upper 90 percentile on an even pull; however, I have read that with a sharp tug (like what happens when a fish hits a bait, or takes off near the boat when leadering) the knot will fail at far less.

    Having said that, I have used the palomar for many years & never had it fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 92 feet down View Post
    The palomar tests in the upper 90 percentile on an even pull; however, I have read that with a sharp tug (like what happens when a fish hits a bait, or takes off near the boat when leadering) the knot will fail at far less.

    Having said that, I have used the palomar for many years & never had it fail.
    I don't have a clue of the strength of a palomar knot I never use it. For some application it is probably a very good knot.

    What I don't understand and have never here anyone say before is a knot is 90% but if you snatch it breaks at a lot less If that's really the case it's not a 90% knot.

    Could you please explain ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rarhomes View Post
    I don't have a clue of the strength of a palomar knot I never use it. For some application it is probably a very good knot.

    What I don't understand and have never here anyone say before is a knot is 90% but if you snatch it breaks at a lot less If that's really the case it's not a 90% knot.

    Could you please explain ?

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    Sure. A knot testing machine pulls & measures the amount of force pulling on the line(s). The pull, however, is a very even pull, not a sudden jerk; therefore, the "measured" breaking strength of the knot is not indicative of the actual "breaking strength" under all circumstances.
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    In my personal experience the knot retains 100% of line strength if it is properly tied. My "line tester" is a scale and nail, but every time I tested it the line failed before the knot.

    Re: Steady pull vs jerk. IMHO force is force. In this case rate should be irrelevant. Usually the perception arises because the peak force in a jerk exceedes line strength, but it is so momentary that it's difficult to measure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 92 feet down View Post
    Sure. A knot testing machine pulls & measures the amount of force pulling on the line(s). The pull, however, is a very even pull, not a sudden jerk; therefore, the "measured" breaking strength of the knot is not indicative of the actual "breaking strength" under all circumstances.
    I believe if the line is be tested/rated at an even pull, the knot should be rated in the same fashion

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    A properly moistened/tied Palomar is as reliable as any other knot you are gonna consistently tie with mono. Should be a go to knot for many situations. Snug from mainline, tighten from the tag end. Great knot when a free swinging hook or lure is not required. My two.
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    FOR BRAIDED LINE YOU CANT BEAT A PALAMOR KNOT. ILL POST AN ARTICLE TOMORROW THAT SHOWS THE KNOT STENGTHS OF SEVERAL KNOTS. BUT FOR MONO I LIKE A UNI OR SAN DIEGO JAM. IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION.

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