HUBRIS AND BVETTE, GO TO PANAMA,

[chumtini]

Cool pix! Thanks.

[whowantstoknow]

i read in number two where you said if you lived here why would you want to leave....its not the leaving..its the living...

i would love to pick up and move to a 3rd world country....my friend does eco friendly carpentry work...he picked up and moved to Costa Rica and has made quite a life..and another guy i know..bought a house lives there fulltime yeah he fishes on a 61 viking in los suenos but his life is anything but americanized.....its a simpler life.

Love the pics...when you goin back?

[hubris 1]

what i said i think was, if you left.....what would you leave with? the local people were villagers. they pounded the husk off rice, raised chickens that ran wild. they just ran outside and grabbed one! that was the end of him. i watched it. my thinking after being there and staying back from fishing..........and how many people do you think went there and stayed back from fishing???? the people that ran tropic star were invading their territory. that's what i said. the people that lived there and lived in the jungle didnt need tropic star, tropic star needed and used them. it sort of convinced me that "do gooder's" need to leave some thing's alone. these people had their life changed, and not really for the better. they still lived in poverty only now they had a comparison. if tropic star every fail's......the local's will be fine. they will go back to their way of life and never miss it. to the rest of the world it will be a tragedy, and they will attempt to raise money to rescue those people. that dont need to be rescued. they have a simple and peaceful existence that man will ruin. JMO!

[whowantstoknow]

what i said i think was, if you left.....what would you leave with? the local people were villagers. they pounded the husk off rice, raised chickens that ran wild. they just ran outside and grabbed one! that was the end of him. i watched it. my thinking after being there and staying back from fishing..........and how many people do you think went there and stayed back from fishing???? the people that ran tropic star were invading their territory. that's what i said. the people that lived there and lived in the jungle didnt need tropic star, tropic star needed and used them. it sort of convinced me that "do gooder's" need to leave some thing's alone. these people had their life changed, and not really for the better. they still lived in poverty only now they had a comparison. if tropic star every fail's......the local's will be fine. they will go back to their way of life and never miss it. to the rest of the world it will be a tragedy, and they will attempt to raise money to rescue those people. that dont need to be rescued. they have a simple and peaceful existence that man will ruin. JMO!

My thoughts exactly....some people are unaware of what they do....they dont realize they are walking on others toes.

live life...live aware of what you do and who you affect. The ables might turn one day..

[hubris 1]

now that would be a perfect scenario. i agree, not everyone wants to live like we do. but we want to go fix it, dont we? the best part of my trip was the day i didnt go fishing.

[randall r]

thanks for the pictures and the report....ive been there twice and both times teamed up with a local and the resort manager to surf a local break. after surfing i wandered around in the village with my local friend. we wound up having a beer on this guys front porch. last thing he says to me is "what's your email"

i also spent a few days kayak fishing and thats another story...big fun...and yeah...i caught a lot of large bill fish...but thats expected

for a hard core bertram guy the place is paradise...thanks again for reminding me

[oldmud]

Hubris, Thanks for the good report and pics. Also for sharing the fact that some people can see the "Forest through the trees". If everyone could just take a little of that home All the world would be better. Thanks again !!

Don

[Anngler]

That's just awesome! That's the kind of thing that my dad and I would love to do! We're both really into the cultures of villages like the ones you saw! That's great! I'd love to do that one day!

Great pictures and even better report!

[randall r]

it really is national geographic.....naked kids fishing in the ocean in dug out canoes...hunting wild boars with spears...one interesting thing is the village is pretty segregated...the panamanians and the columbians (its seven miles from columbia) live in cinderblock basic...the indians live in thatched roof hogans a little further to the east. most tourists dont get to see it but we surfed at the next village to the east which is pronounced ..ha key...much larger and on the open ocean. the next village to the west is 25 miles away up the coast at the next river mouth and there is nothing , absolutely nothing .cept steep cliff and jungle mountains in between.....good waves there too...and big roosterfish