How do you feel about IGFA Rules?

[captkev1]

I disagree with no use of a harpoon, i think they should be aloud, Iv heard that poon man has put his word in to the igfa about this also.

[Deep C]

I disagree with no use of a harpoon, i think they should be aloud, Iv heard that poon man has put his word in to the igfa about this also.

Bingo! Very good point... Poons definately should be allowed. If they're worried about "throwing" past 30' then make a rule about that being the max line off the poon... Or leader must be in hand before using... I'm new to my poon and don't intend on "throwing" any time soon so effectively for me its a dart gaff.

[tunakiller 4 hire]

Jungle rules for me the tournament igfa rules leave to much to argue about. Afdidbc as box said is the way to go and keep it fun.

[T380Fisher]

Loving golf (true 20 handicap, put everything) as well as loving offshore fishing, I cannot agree with the Jungle Rules Posts.....they will only lead to more rules.

I left the IGFA similar to others about the time the Museum was built...at that time I felt they sold us out with the agreement to fishing management zones that other organizations were not allow to be a part of and no real input from its membership.

Jungle (or no) rules only lead to more rules:

1) How about we use a stick of dynamite when the fish gets close? oh we'd need a RULE to not allow that
2) Let's use Poons....oh we need a RULE as to how long the lead line can be or how the poon was attached to such line
3) Let's us bang sticks....somebody would make a bang stick out of a Poon...oh we'd have to make a RULE about that
4) Let's start using 5,000 lb steel cable and a Davit to catch fish...oh we'd need a RULE against that
5) When big bucks are on the line....we've seen it on TV (EAST vs WEST show), integrity is not always the case....just image the RULES we would have to come up with about a JUNGLE RULES tournament.

It would probably look similar to the IGFA RULES....and nobody could do anything about the cheaters anyway. I am amazed at the snickers some crews get, but nobody does anything about them.

I've seen many golfers call penalties on themselves and seen a lot of fisherman bring questionable fish to the dock....many people need some lessons from golf and the IGFA does need some modernizing. BTW...I like the WMO and MA500 "Hook and Hand" rule, it allows everyone onboard the chance to fight a fish and if a crew wants to take the chance of loosing a fish during the handoff that is a risk they will have to live with. Mostly I fish with friends for pleasure, we take turns at the "next" fish...we're all in it together right? Many hookups have been lost during the hand-off, so I like that rule.

[GALAZIO]

Interesting two sides to this... especially from those that do fish more than the norm. Surprising? No. but interesting to say the least. Anyone with half a game could shoot four rounds in the 60's using a two piece ball off the tee and a soft balata ball for approach shots... hell, give them a driver with 2 degrees closed face and another with 2 degrees open to help work the ball without skill left or right, throw the 14 club limit out the window, and let them just toss one down where they think it went out of bounds and now anyone can SCORE like Tiger... the problem is they can't PLAY like Tiger. And since Tiger is the one with the game not needing to resort to "Jungle Rules", he just says the hell with it and moves on to better pastures. (I give you some of the KingFish boys on another website and what they are doing for the sport and to the real fishermen on the tour). Skill is an art. Sorry to those pros that see it different, but I disagree with all due respect. Jungle Rules are for monkeys, Just my opinion. Now, allowing certain things like passing a rod after hookup to a Jr or Angler if the tournament allows it, FINE...just don't submit a record if a record is caught. With "Jungle Rules" when $$$ are on the table, the Treble Hook Trollers & Stinger Hook Snaggers will turn out as will the other Breechers of Good Intent. Sure, I'll play in a 4 man scramble...just don't submit the score for a course record and brag to your buds how great of a round you played. (The golfers will understand these "Jungle Rules"). BTW, what makes Tiger better than the others is not his physical game...it is his ability to read what direction the grass is growing under his ball before hitting it... judging the wind... paying attention to how the ground is drying out and the course is speeding up throughout the day. All pros can do this, but he can combine all these factors better than anyone. That is what makes him better and it has nothing to do with hitting a ball.

[tunakiller 4 hire]

I hear what you are saying but does Tiger need to rely on his caddy to do the right thing and win him a check. Those of us that have paying charters on board during tournaments look to us to help in the areas they are weak but truth be told some of them are too busy trying to stand up then listen to instructions about the proper drop back.

[Deep C]

I ran a series of tournaments for a while. Had a couple jungle rules ones tossed in for fun. Gotta say the guys got creative... People had a blast. Catches were good. No obscene slaughter but good... I saw no davits or crap like that and no dynamite was used. Rather it was other simple things like letting spreader bars play, or wire line could be used, or inline planers with more than thirty feet of leader. Poon advantage? Technically you could use a 100' gaff if you can find one, under IGFA rules...

[Fritz]

[QUOTE=Deep C;311874]....On the big money game I would almost like to see "jungle rules". Why? I'll explain... Cause then you could really seperate the masses, who's got an edge versus being limited to a small level playing field. For example, under the new circle hook deal effectively everyones going to have the same spread of circled nakeds. Its a friggin lottery instead of letting teams use all the tricks out of their bag. In a jungle rules tournament people would be free to really show their stuff and would show who really has the best all around game......


I could not disagree more. By your way of thinking, you can hand everybody a couple of dozen ballyhoo and all the boats would have similar results on any given day and that is just not the case. Looking at it from your neck of the wood, how is that guys like Scott Fawcett [last name spelling], who runs the boat for The Finest Kind, consistentely is in the winner's circle for all those sailfish trolling tournaments. Those guys in those tournaments pull dead circle hooked bait almost exclusively. Sorry, but I think you are oversimplifying dead bait fishing more than just a little bit. Don't you agree.

Jungle rules. No thanks! Its a sport right and sports are governed by a set of rules for a reason. BTW- I don't think you should be allowed to pass the rod either. If you are in a boxing match, do you get to pick a substitute? If you play golf, are you permitted to have someone else put it on the green for you?

Rules help raise the bar of competence and help give the fish a sporting chance. Isn't that the point of calling Sportfishing?

[tunakiller 4 hire]

The no pass rule would work great for those who fish with a regular team but those who charter a boat for the one tournament once a year those kind of puts teams a bad disadvantage. There goes a big part of your purse.

[Fritz]

The no pass rule would work great for those who fish with a regular team but those who charter a boat for the one tournament once a year those kind of puts teams a bad disadvantage. There goes a big part of your purse.

Fishing the MA 500 for example can cost in excess of $20,000.00 after fuel, calcuttas, bait, etc, etc. I don't understand why a crew that does not even know how to hang a billfish would put that kind of money on the line for a tournament anyway.