Hangover Boxed Hoos hitting the fan

[frankypettolina]

On Tidal Fish there was a post about refreezing ballyhoos.

I replied to the effect that I will take prepped baits (eyeballed and pooped) and lay them in a beer flat or baking tray on a layer of salt, backs down and layer salt on top of them to freeze and re-use at a later date. I have also done this with rigged baits when I have a 2 day layover between trips. (Hangover boxed)

One response that I received is that I should post that reply over here and watch the poop hit the fan. So here it is. Whats all the guff?

I have done this, and seen it done by some top crews in a variety of places. As a matter of fact, alot of guys have intentionally prepped and frozen/refrozen baits in Mexico, Venezuela, and Costa Rica, to have when the bite lights up.

Alright cockpit monkeys, let the poop fly

[anthony]

Franky,

I have done it, and almost exactly as you described. Now, if I am marlin fishing...and especially tournament fishing...I would never do such a thing, fresh baits all the way. But if I have some baits left over that are in excellent shape...yep, I refreeze with great care and pull them out another day when we are meat fishing. No poop from me on this one.

[WAHOONBOX]

I ASSUME THE OTHER BOARD IS REFERRING TO ME.......WELL GOOD....THAT MEANS THEY READ AND REMEMBERED WAY BACK WHEN !!! THEY KNOW THAT THE RUN-OFF WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A CRIME......AND IF THEY WILL COME OVER HERE TO SFC THEY MAY LEARN SOME MORE ABOUT BALLYHOO



UPON MEETING A CHARTER IN THE EARLY A.M.......

"GOOD MORNING MEN....THANKS FOR THE $1,300 CHARTER TODAY GUYS.....EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO DOWN BELOW AND GET YOUR REFROZEN BALLYHOOS OUT"......not



ON BACK TO BACK DAYS.....WE INSPECT LEFT OVER BAITS ON DAY ONE ....RE-SALT LATE THAWED BALLY AND REFRESH THE ICE ON THE S/S TRAY.....BUT ONLY IF THE BAITS WERE THAWED LATE IN THE AFTERNOON OF OFFSHORE FISHING AND ARE UNUSED...WE WILL USE THEM AS BRIDLED TEASER BAITS OR PLANER BAITS...OR FOR BAILING MAHI......BUT 95% OF THE TIME WE TOSS THEM






PEOPLE: RE-FREEZE 'EM AND THEN GO GET SKUNKED ON THE REFROZEN BAIT DAY AND YOU'LL GET MY DRIFT......TOP BOAT CREWS .....PRIVATE CREWS....RECREATIONAL CREWS...I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE...REFREEZING BALLYHOOS IS CHICKEN SHIT AND UNPROFESSIONAL.....

THIS IS NOT DIRECTED TO ANY PARTICULAR PERSON BUT TO THE FISHING WORLD AS A WHOLE .......YOU ASKED FOR POOP...YOUR GETTING SOME POOP!!!!


LET'S LIST SOME ISSUES HERE:
$100,000 - $1,000,000 PLUS FOR A BOAT....HOUSE AT BEACH.....50 K WORTH OF RODS/REELS.............ELECTRONICS THAT NASA WOULD BE PROUD OFF........ONE BLOWS 100 BUCKS EVERY WEEKEND DRINKING LIQUOR AND BEER.......A 35K PLUS TRUCK......MAYBE 60K

AND .....YOU.... WANT TO TELL ME TO RE-FREEZE BALLYHOO?.....THE HORROR !

FRESH BAIT! FRESH BAIT...EVERYDAY.....YOU CAN COUNT ON IT FROM THE "RUN-OFF"

[FASTWATER]

I always refreeze my left over bait salted down,can always use some chum or crab bait right on box !!!PEACE

[snakeeyes]

HOPE THIS ISN'T TOO STUPID, HOWEVER IF KEPT IN PREP TRAY ON ICE PROPERLY BRINED, WILL THEY BE OK TO USE THE NEXT DAY..

[whitey]

I refreeze my leftovers for fluke bait. The big flaties love small hoos hooked thru the mouth on a 2 ounce bucktail.

[Proheat]

I refreeze my leftovers for fluke bait. The big flaties love small hoos hooked thru the mouth on a 2 ounce bucktail.

Hey Andy- Thats a great idea! I never thought about it, but the big Flatties would love it!


Thanks,


Barry

[TommyTuna]

you would think with fresh bait so important pros would go through the trouble to have fresh bait overnighted

[WishnIwasFishn]

Holy POOP! lol, what a poop-stirrer. Who gives a poop, do it your own way. I definately refreeze on occasion- often too. If I'm lucky enough, I don't have to because trips are stacked up back to back.

I usually start the day with fresh baits, and do avoid freezing baits that are rigged. If it's on wire, I don't mind at all, but I think mono absoarbs a certain amount of water. It would be nice to have an expert comment on any effects freezing can have on different leader materials. Growing up, I've done plenty of sub-freezing trout fishing, but thats a different story lol. I wonder if it's a different mono makeup.

Box has a point with what a charter may think when the ole zip lock fires outa the ice chest. But, from a mate's perspective, when the bossman finds out you saved him a few bucks (and of coarse thats the ONLY purpose ), he's a bit more happy with you. Anytime you can svae him money and yourself time, it's great.... And I really dont think it matters when being trolled at 6 kts

But, they REALLY come in handy when the boss insists on passing that damn poly ball 1000 times, or when the bite is so hot, they dont have a chance to blow out. My most common use is at the end of the day when I only have an hour or two of fishing left. Maybe I just got covered up and only have 3 remaining hoos but I know were heading in- no reason to thaw out a brand new pack if I might never even use them; and getting caught outa baits is a sin. I don't freeze twice, outa principle I guess.

Bally sides make great flounder baits too... I'll hafta try the small behind a teaser. I've tried split bills for small rockfish, but not enough to deem it successfull or not. A whole ballyhoo will absolutly smack minnows in a trap too.


Mark

[whitey]

Hey Andy- Thats a great idea! I never thought about it, but the big Flatties would love it!


Thanks,


Barry

Barry, If you fish the Old Grounds this summer give it a try. Last summer on 1 trip we had 5 fluke over 6 pounds. All of them were caught on a small ballyhoo and bucktail combo.