Ground Zero!
The Ground breaker!
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Ground Zero!
The Ground breaker!
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March 04: 62 blues, 31 Whites, 7 sails
April 04: 69 Blues, 39, wites, 11 sails
April 05: 60 blues, 47 whites, 19 sails
May 05: 32 blues, 51 whites, 32 sails
April 06: 16 Whites, 3 sails, 2 blues (Only fished 4 days)...
Still dreaming of the 100 blue month or 200 billfish month like a couple have had...
Nuff said...![]()
Last edited by Deep C; 11-24-2008 at 10:23 PM.
Those were just mine and I don't hold a candle to some who have gone through there...
How about George Seeman on the Mitchel III with over 100 blues and 100 whites each in several spring months over several years stemming from the late sixties to the lates seventies... Moms Worry with 12 blues in a day on their way to a 200 fish month. What about the Gasparilla and their 100 fish week in 79... Sea Gull a sailboat with a super grand slam... The list goes on and on...
Snee Kee Peet Benoit had a couple write home about seasons there... Dinny Phipps and the Fighting Lady i think did pretty well there too... Bill France Sr.'s Little Kay had some bang up trips there...
Trust me i thought the same thing! i have fished both places quite a bit then after reading about the billfishing in chub i thought to myself why do all the top circuit boats drive right by chub on their way to St thomas,venezuela,panama,costa rica,guatemala etc when the bite is red hot right there in chubby! someone better alert the tysons pride they have no business being in Brazil when you have chubby and hundred billfish months going on there.
The season at chub is short and the blues for the most part aren't pigs... Not all the top boats go all the way down... Some are perfectly content to do Chub til it starts to fiz then move over to Harbour Island or maybe up in the Abacos...
The ones going to St. T are ones looking for basically all blues all summer into fall... Those going to Brazil are looking for the grander class ones as are the guys over in the Azores.
Venezuala is the shizzle in the fall... There you may raise close to a thousand fish in October... A lot of boats choose to go to Mexico when Chub is on because there they are getting 30 or more shots a day at sails and some whites there. 100 fish is nothing to sneeze at but its not a thousand...
Guatamala and Costa Rica are pacific hot spots mainly again for sails with some marlin mixed in... Panama... Now theres a good spot for a mix...
All that is fine and dandy... We're not talking about other places or other times of year. We are talking about Chub Cay and who whould be interested in going to get in on what it and the pocket offer... I'll guarantee one thing... It sure beats shoveling snow in Philly or Jersey or anywhere for that matter...![]()
Last edited by Deep C; 11-25-2008 at 12:21 AM.
Paul I have never fished chub but I hear it can be dead on awesome or desert like slow. From what I was told it is very wind oriented. Not sure which wind but I have heard you have to have the right wind or stay home. Some day I guess I will get down. I am strictly referring to billfishing.
Can some of you guys enlighten me on ideal chub conditions.
man i hope the wife lets me go..
with the new baby and all it is tough tough tough but i am going to try to get somethign together paul...
Bill there has been a long standing "rumor" that southeast wind hard is the "only" wind to fish... While it is true that the fish are easier to find and more wide spread on that wind and even probably better over all, its not the only wind. Each of the other points of the compass will hold fish too. Just that they hole up in different tighter spots on those winds...
I'll go into some detail... On the other points of wind it seems to me that the fish will hole up tight in two general positions relative to the wind and the shape of the pocket. One will be in the "lee" of where the wind meets the wall and the other where it exits the wall. Lets say its an east wind. One hot spot will be up near Chub itself. theres a section of wall between Momma Rhoda rock and Sand cay that runs Northwest and Southeast. Where its closest to being in the lee of Chub and the rock often heats right up. The other spot that heats up on that wind will be the western most point of the pocket about twelve miles from there.
They say north thre sucks... Not true... Between the "yellowbar" and the "Corner" is the northernmost point of the pocket and fish will hold there. Directly across the tip of the pocket on what could be the south wall that place will heat up. . I have caught fish on the straight west and south west winds where they meet the respective spots on the walll.
While south east is typocally the best. The best two days I had one was south wind and the next was a rare hazy glass calm morn.
Now before i close though I will say this. Prolonged or storm force bad direction wind namely from the north or west can stir up the flats water and blow that mud up into the pocket and leave only that near chub area to fish or over on the other sie by Morgans Bluff... Until the southeast returns to "flush" the pocket out spots are limited and it can suck. We had several back to back storm fronts in 2007 and though we caught some fish it was far from good.
Another more important factor at Chub is moon... Yes I have prefered stages and those that I loathe... From day three through eight AFTER the full moon is the slowest. We get some but its tough... I try to schedule in more of the "mixed" species trips or schedule some home time during that phase...
The absolute best seems to be the ten days of the rise before the full with days 4, 3, and 2 before being the cream of the cream.
The one problem in that phase that can creep up and has in some years is absolutely brutal dolphin invasion. I don't mind just loads and loads of em but sometimes it can be past nuts. Big ones some times litterally flood in so bad that all the way from Chub to the corner and back out to the Joulters Cays that you can't keep a spread out. We have tried with limited suces to go over to big lures too big for the dolphin, but they don't always read the rule book and some days even pile on the arm length offerings...