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    Man....are you guys blind??? Deaf??? WTF??? John (Admin), thanks for taking the time & expense to put this together. There was and still is many unanswered questions (I guess for some, not me).

    First of all, I got from your interview excatly what I thought and suspected...OUTRIGHT CHEATING. Period. The one in your interview, ChumStain I guess, ADMITS to calling the short Mako "released" when it wasn't, kept on the boat from 9am till weigh-in, Cut, Stretched, admits it was measured inncorrectly, can calls in a false catch at the end of the day & uses the earlier fish as the one measured.

    As for the unprofessional antics, I can explain that away as those that don't understand professionalism and what it stads for, it comes as no shock that they know no better. So the 11 1/2 minutes of "excuses" was a waste of tape IMO. The one sentence stating the issue with the mako that was caught earlier, falsly claimed that it was released, sat in the boat all day, cut, streched, lied about who, how & when it was caught...then accepting a false measurement and claiming it sums it up for me. These guys are the most pathetic group of cheaters, liars, blamers, I have ever witnessed. To claim themselves as "professionals" give everyone a blackeye. I sure hope they get their due...and I'm a little shocked at those that are casually sweeping this under the rug. You guys that know them, fish the same grounds, same tournaments and compete for the same customers should be outraged and be calling for their head. It doesn't say much for the profession of charter boats and crews for all of you to give them a pass on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GALAZIO
    Man....are you guys blind??? Deaf??? WTF??? John (Admin), thanks for taking the time & expense to put this together. There was and still is many unanswered questions (I guess for some, not me).

    First of all, I got from your interview excatly what I thought and suspected...OUTRIGHT CHEATING. Period. The one in your interview, ChumStain I guess, ADMITS to calling the short Mako "released" when it wasn't, kept on the boat from 9am till weigh-in, Cut, Stretched, admits it was measured inncorrectly, can calls in a false catch at the end of the day & uses the earlier fish as the one measured.

    As for the unprofessional antics, I can explain that away as those that don't understand professionalism and what it stads for, it comes as no shock that they know no better. So the 11 1/2 minutes of "excuses" was a waste of tape IMO. The one sentence stating the issue with the mako that was caught earlier, falsly claimed that it was released, sat in the boat all day, cut, streched, lied about who, how & when it was caught...then accepting a false measurement and claiming it sums it up for me. These guys are the most pathetic group of cheaters, liars, blamers, I have ever witnessed. To claim themselves as "professionals" give everyone a blackeye. I sure hope they get their due...and I'm a little shocked at those that are casually sweeping this under the rug. You guys that know them, fish the same grounds, same tournaments and compete for the same customers should be outraged and be calling for their head. It doesn't say much for the profession of charter boats and crews for all of you to give them a pass on this.
    Just for you information the hook up call in was from Sat not Sun. You are entitled to your opinion. By the way who did we blame? No hear to debate becuse you already stated your piece.

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    Say everything this guys states is true? OK so why in gods name would you ever let yourself be portrayed drinking, naked, totally out of control.

    Gosh that VS channel can do some amazing dubbing.

    OH he neve raised the bottle, the crew guy never took his clothes off ( oh forgot was his birthday)....what's he do for his anniversary

    Nope Cappy can't buy into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivia Grace
    Just for you information the hook up call in was from Sat not Sun. You are entitled to your opinion. By the way who did we blame? No hear to debate becuse you already stated your piece.
    WHO DID YOU BLAME???? ARE YOU KIDDING? Capt...read the posts...listen to the interview. I'm not going to get into a back and forth debate, but please...for once, step to the plate AS A MAN AND MEMBER of a fraternity of fishermen and state your rules infractions (which I will call, conscience, out right cheating). You offered 1 sentence in the interview regarding the "release" or lack there of. Explain why. Why was the fish kept? why was the fish called released when it's sitting in your boat? why did you do everything to make this fish "close it legal" short of graphing another part from another fish??? Why, when you KNEW the fish was short...accept a false measurement? When do you say, "hey, time out guys...this isn't right"??? I guess never. You sit there and call it "a non-tournament" "Vacation" after the fact...If the winer's check / boat found it's way to you, would you still say the same and give it to the "underprivledged kids" sitting at the dock?

    Come on man... Look for a shovel I'm sending you in the mail. Use it as you see fit...either to keep digging your grave, or to shovel all the BS out of your way. Either way, you're right...I do have my opinion, and you sir are a disgrace to a profession.

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    Victims victims victims, you're all victims. It's the editing, it's the show, its a script, its the camera man, it's not a real fishing tournament... by the way so and so went to a stripper, so and so cheated on his wife, the insurance man drinks too much, other boats violated IGFA rules, they told us what to say, they told us what to do.

    Seems like a lot of blaming other people and deflecting from the facts. Every show is going to do some editing to tell a story, but they cannot edit what isn't there, and if you didn't all say those things, and do those things, then they couldn't cut and past it. You guys sure gave them plenty to work with.

    I still have some unanswered questions, and you can address them or not:

    1. If the audio is all edited over the video, in what situation did "We better get that thing filleted before...", "Cut the &^*&^ head off", "It's done, it's over, the head is off" come into play? "70 inches, he grew quick" where does that come from?

    2. Your "stretching" theory on the reason for the underside tail cut- a question, how does a lengthwise strain on a fish cause it to cut laterally? That doesn't make any sense.

    3. The "62" that was dubbed? Listen to it again, it's three different voices!

    4. Concerning the mako in question, on the show George said the camera man shot the first fish that was released (that you later admitted that you didn't release) but not the second one that was kept because he was sleeping. Now up top in this video you say that there wasn't a second fish and it was the first one that sat on the boat for nine hours. WTF???

    I'm sorry to keep dragging this on, and I'll stop after this, but I just couldn't let these questions go unanswered.

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    hey brian thanks man, as soon as we get a weather window i am going to be out there the boat is finally in the slip....... and we are just finishing out the year with asa tournaments......

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    Watched the video, glad ADMIN gave Olivia Grace the time to say their piece. My only question is why did you all sever the head on the mako while still onboard in the marina???? That footage was not cropped the sunset in the backround clearly showed the exact same time of day. Just Wonderin.

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    Admin John, I want to thank you for going great lengths to put all this together on the best site the web has to offer. Remember don't believe all you see and hear on TV They make money by getting high ratings therefore selling advertising at a higher price.

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    ok one down and one to go. George catch a flight to Florida. We need to hear your view. You need a break. Call admin and set up a time. I am sure deep c will have a question or two, to ask. The red eye out of philly is callin your name.

    ps take a make up person or have one issued by the admin.......



    pss chum I see in the vid you went cheap on the makeup person. I am sure admin gave you the price list........

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    OK I hate to eat to admit when i'm wrong but here i am doing it.....I pre judged the Capt from what i seen on the damned show. now that i've heared both sides i stand humbled the capt is a stand up guy that is willing to put his rep on the line to put the people that are screwing the public out of a decent show in the light. I would gladly do an interview to support him anyday again i am sorry for pre-judging you before I heared all the facts.

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