WAY WAY WAY WAY BACK

[WAHOONBOX]

I HAVE READ THIS WWWB THING ON MANY INTERNET FORUMS FOR YEARS.............. THATS RIGHT...I AM SO CONFUSED AS TO WHY WAY WAY WAY BACK..................

IS YOUR BOAT SO OFFENSIVE TO FISH THAT YOU FEEL YOU MUST GET A BAIT WAY WAY WAY BACK AND OUT OF HARMS WAY OF YOUR RATTLING TRANSOM AND THE SCAREY ELECTROLYSIS FIELD THAT SURROUNDS YOUR BOAT? ARE YOUR RUDDERS SECURE? ARE YA PROPS BENT? DO YOU HAVE A SEQUOIA RAIN FOREST GROWING ON THE HULL? IS YOUR TRANSDUCER OFFENSIVE TO FEESH?

I'M JUST SO CURIOUS HERE ON THIS WAY WAY WAY BACK BAIT I READ SO MANY OF YOU PULL.....MAINLY THE BIRD AND GREEN MACHINE

NOW HOW FAR WAY WAY WAY BACK IS TO YOU MAY BE A BIT DIFFERENT TO ME....BUT I ASSUME YOU ARE 150 YARS PLUS ON THIS WWWB DEAL


NOW ....LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT HERE.........TO THOSE OF YOU THAT PULL SAID BAIT WWB DO YOU HAVE EYE SIGHT THAT OTHERS DON'T HAVE? CAN YOU REALLY SEE A WHITE ON THAT BAIT? I DOUBT IT? AND BESIDES , YOU CANNOT DROP A BIRD/GREEN MACHINE BACK AND CATCH A MISSED STRIKE!! DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MEANS OF SEEING THAT BAIT WWWWWB ? ARE YOU USING AN EXTENDED VERSION OF THOSE PERISCOPE THINGS YOU SEE IN THE CROWD AROUND THE GREENS EDGE AT GOLF TOURNAMENTS?

AND I FREQUENTLY READ WHERE ONE "MISSES" FREQUENT FISH ON THIS WWWWB BAIT.............................TRY THIS: ..........

PULL OFF 150 YARDS OF LINE FROM A 5O................HAVE THE DRAG SET AT 16 POUNDS..........NOW WALK BACKWARDS WITH YOUR LURE..............DO YOU SEE HOW MUCH STRETCH THERE IS IN YOUR LINE??? DO YOU??? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!! IT STRETCHES A HELLOFVA LOT!!!! MANY MANY FEET !! NO WONDER YOU ARE MISSEING THE CREATURES!

WHY NOT PULL THAT BIRD / GREENIE THING DOWN THE MIDDLE JUST INSHORE OF YOUR LONG RIGGERS.........GET IT INSIDE YOUR SPREAD!.....YOU WILL STILL CATCH YOUR SUICIDE FISH ON IT..........AND WHEN YOU DO MISS THOSE FREQUENT SHOTGUN BITES ...AT LEAST YOU HAVE TWO LONGRIGGER BAITS HE MAY PEEL OFF TO. THIS WAY THE BIRD/GREENIE IS ALSO AN ATTRACTANT, A TEASER WITH A HOOK, TO THE REST OF YOUR SPREAD!

NATURALLY THESE LONGRIGGER BAITS WILL BE MEDIUM BALLYHOO...........RIGHT? WITH MINIMAL HAIRED WITCHES OR JUST PLAIN NAKED

[DROPBACK]

There is a god.

Karl

[Reelhope]

Marty....I have seen old fisheren and bold fishermen......but never any old..bold fishermen!..Ha..Ha
Happy bday bro. I was expecting some birthday video's of women jumping out of a birthday cake!
.......Anyhoo....on the issue of the WWB thing..I have pulled in my bird and lure combo and I am having a lot of success with it. I run a short center and now a long center which use to be the wwb and it seems to work for now.
I am in Cape May running around looking for whoever has your mug!!
Todd

[Capt-D]

I think that it works both ways. Thats why I try to run two. one WWB and one Shotgun just aft of the wash opositte side of my spreader, just inboard of the riggers. Yes I agree that whites miss it regurally, but I have had days where all or most of the tuners we baged came from WWWWWWTFB. Beyond 150 yards (when you think its out enought send it out more!). I dont know why, but some days it just happens that way. IMO why not. its an extra rod thats not part of your spread, you dont nesc. have to clear it when you get a nice hookup in your spread. I agree that its not marlin fishing, but when the charter wants meat, then it's allways an added bonus.

-D

[Sea Draggin]

Plus, if its slow, checking the wayback bait gives the crew something to do, since you almost have to put it in the chair just to check it.

[Capt-D]

Hey if its not sitting on the beach when your 40 miles off its still too close

-Dennis

[WAHOONBOX]

Plus, if its slow, checking the wayback bait gives the crew something to do, since you almost have to put it in the chair just to check it.

OH MY GOSH!!! .......IN MY PIT...THERE IS ALWAYS....ALWAYS SOMETHING TO DO............THIS PROCESS OF CHECKING A WWWWB BAIT ON THE SHOTGUN WOULD HAPPENED 40-60 TIMES PER DAY ON OUR RIG!!

THINK BACK WHEN YOU PULL IN A BALLYHOO TO CHECK IT....AND THE DANG THING IS ALL WASHED OUT!! WHY? CAUSE SOMEONE IS NOT DOIN THEIR JOB !!!! PERIOD.........IF THE TRUTH BE TOLD..........ANY WASHED OUT BAIT....ANY ENLARGED HOOK EXIT-HOLE IN A BALLYHOO.....AND ANY BROKEN SKIN ON A BALLYHOO IS A CRIME...............WE ARE ALL GUILTY............BUT I READ WHAT IS POSTED ON THE NET..............AND MOST DO NOT CHANGE BAITS OUT OFTEN ENOUGH.

THE WWWWB BAIT IS ....."IN MY WAY!!!!"..... AND ONE CANNOT DO ONE OR MULTIPLE DROPBACKS CORRECTLY AND EFFECTIVELY WITH SOME PIECE OF BALSA WOOD FLOATING IN THE WILD BLUE YONDER 200PLUS YARDS BACK! AND A CAPTAIN NEEDS TO GET IN A TURN QUICK AT TIMES......EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF MY DROPBACK

AND IF YOUR ARE "SWIMMING" BAITS WAY WAY WAY THE F BACK..............THEN PLEASE..........WHEN YOU GET IN A COVEY OF OTHER BOATS.................DO NOT SCREAM AND CARRY ON THAT SOMEONE IS ABOUT TO RUN OVER YOUR RIG!! IF IT IS OUT OF YOUR "COURTESY ZONE" , THE SHOTGUN RIG, THEN IT SHOULD BE CHOPPED OF WHEN YOU HORDE THE PLAYING FIELD!!

I DON'T EXPECT YOU STUBBORN ONES TO CHANGE YOUR STYLE HERE........AFTER ALL MANY OF YOU ARE ABOVE THE DMZ AND PLEASE REMEMBER,..THIS IS ONLY MY WAY AND NOT THE ONLY WAY

AT LEAST WE ARE SHARING FACTS AND KNOWLEDGE HERE AND THAT IS WHAT THIS FORUM IS ABOUT!!!

[Squidnation]

IF I remember correctly the WWB thing started witht the beginning of the Bluefin craze and carried on to other types of fishing. IMHO putting a WWB for marlin fishing is stupid - plain stupid. As for yellowbellies - most Yellowfins hit flat or short anyway. BUT - I still fish a WWB for Bluefins. I first saw it used in feb of 1994 with Arch Bracher on the pelican looking for Giant Bluefins. He trolled 1 (One) rod. an 80 or 130 off the bridge with a naked horse fished WWWWB. He never looked at the bait once. HE barely even looked up half the day. HE just trolled around with his eyes peeled to his fishfinder. When he found the fish the WWWB would explode and the fatbacks would immediatly start getting tossed off the transom and the school would be boatside within minutes.

I didn't think to use until one day when my out rigger bracket broke and I had to keep the rigger straight up for the rest of the day. I thought to myself why not run a wwb off the rigger straight up. I let out half the 50 and started trolling with my normal spread as well. about 10 minutes into it I saw a splash off in the distance. I think I could have counted to 15 when my rigger popped and the reel started singing. 132 lb bluefin was boatside 30 minutes later.

So for marlin and yellowfin keep them baits just like them skirts we all like to look at, short and tight. But I still like a WWB for the bluefins.

[AhiSlayer]

Aloha!

I've heard all types of junk about how the tuna in my remote location are easier to catch because they don't know what a boat is. Wrong

When I make my approach I watch how close I get before they dive...The distance from my bow to the pile has to be the same distance as the stern to the lure.

The next observation is when I pass the pile on the second or third pass. The lure needs to be back where they start boiling again.

Some days they bite close but some days the long gone is the only thing they want.

I can get um to bite closer to the boat by going lighter line, but then the sharks get involved.

The 8 to 12 knots i troll tuna piles ensures a clean hook up. If he hits in a turn I don't slow untill I have the line straighten out. This helps keep his head up and the pile from sounding. During the fight I make a broad turn to face the bow down current. The current will help bring the fish to the boat faster and help keep him from sounding.

Airplanes takeoff and land into the wind. by pulling a big fish down current your taking away their lift or sounding capabilities and drowning them just like pulling a live bait down current too far.

If they popping off yer shot gun hook, try supper braided lines. But don't use more drag than your hook can take,,,or simply go 1 knot faster. Use a tag line on yer center rigger!

If they boiling up in the middle of your spreader bars try going 1 knot faster or run smaller bars packed in tight - more hook baits

Short bitting tuna might be confused by a reflection of yer bait - change the angle of yer run so the sun is at an angle that the tuna doesn't need sunglasses to see it....Or they simply want a smaller bait...Or a bait that dives 2 feet deep...If you can see them they can see you!!!

Time fo' work
Cheers
ahi

[WAHOONBOX]

Aloha!

I've heard all types of junk about how the tuna in my remote location are easier to catch because they don't know what a boat is. Wrong

When I make my approach I watch how close I get before they dive...The distance from my bow to the pile has to be the same distance as the stern to the lure.

The next observation is when I pass the pile on the second or third pass. The lure needs to be back where they start boiling again.

Some days they bite close but some days the long gone is the only thing they want.

I can get um to bite closer to the boat by going lighter line, but then the sharks get involved.

The 8 to 12 knots i troll tuna piles ensures a clean hook up. If he hits in a turn I don't slow untill I have the line straighten out. This helps keep his head up and the pile from sounding. During the fight I make a broad turn to face the bow down current. The current will help bring the fish to the boat faster and help keep him from sounding.

Airplanes takeoff and land into the wind. by pulling a big fish down current your taking away their lift or sounding capabilities and drowning them just like pulling a live bait down current too far.

If they popping off yer shot gun hook, try supper braided lines. But don't use more drag than your hook can take,,,or simply go 1 knot faster. Use a tag line on yer center rigger!

If they boiling up in the middle of your spreader bars try going 1 knot faster or run smaller bars packed in tight - more hook baits

Short bitting tuna might be confused by a reflection of yer bait - change the angle of yer run so the sun is at an angle that the tuna doesn't need sunglasses to see it....Or they simply want a smaller bait...Or a bait that dives 2 feet deep...If you can see them they can see you!!!

Time fo' work
Cheers
ahi

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