Played with a shimano saragosa 18000 today. For the money (300.00), I was very, very impressed! We will be carrying both the big 14000 and 18000 sizes, in addition to the 8000. No noticeable difference in the 8000 size between it and the new improved stradics, but both 14k and 18k sizes are said to have 44 lbs of drag. I put a few hundred yards of 80 lb pp on the 18k today, and locked her down. Buried a 50 lb hand scale and broke the power pro! Retied and tested its upper drag range, very smooth and good performance in this range (30-40 lbs). This provides the jigging angler with a much more affordable alternative to a 10-20k stella, and allows the angler to use appropriate drag settings and line tests for deepwater grouper/pelagic jigging. While more $ than the penn 760 slammer, it is a hair lighter, much smoother and has a very comfortable big handle which is the main setback of the few that exist for the penn. Just thought I'd post in case some anglers might be debating this issue or hesitant to get a setup due to the cost of the reel. Don't get me wrong, I believe the stellas are worth every penny, but this provides a cost-effective option as well as a top of the line combo that is not out of the question for entry level deepwater jigging anglers.
Cheers,
Arlen


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