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    So I guess what you're saying, is that your really not a grumpy old grouch? Who knew? You guy's are doin a good job here. Only site I spend anytime on, or participate in, say's something! Frank

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    Nice post there BOX, I joined not long after you did... I have been through some really rough times in the last 4 years and I must say the members of this site have looked after me every step of the way.

    It's not JUST a website.. it is a place for friends to meet without having to drink and drive.

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    Good on you Boxman..heck all this time I thought Alexa was a downeast sportfish owned by the Piano Man..what do I know..polls, rankings may not be accurate but they sure do give an "indication" of what the hearbeat of a site is..skewed or not...they are representative of "activity" and the #1 ranking SFC has is important to us and im sure all others who advertise here.

    In the next 30 days, I personally will make an effort to find and bring another advertiser to the site. Ill bet I know 50 companies that could use this kind of exposure..

    that's my take on your post..that's what im going to do for my site, our site!

    it's a win/win..for all..

    so why not find another business that could use this great exposure and bring them in..refer them to the site..tell them about the great signature ads..which are very reasonable for the price/exposure..

    30 days ..1 new business or at least new members..more eyes..more views..more members..more advertisers..greater product diversity.. means more views..and the ultimate click thru to your business..pretty simple concept.

    you help the site..you help build the base..you help your business and yourself!

    that's what im going to do.

    out.
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    GEEEZ....

    IT IS NICE TO SEE STRIPERS & STRIPPERS FOUND THE TIME TO VACATE HIS BRASS POLE AND JOIN SFC AND ENTER THE WORLD SO THAT HE COULD BRING US HIS LECTURE SERIES ON "ALEXA DOT COM"....I AM FLATTERED THAT YOU SIGNED UP JUST TO BARK AT THE EL BOXO....

    AND I THINK YOU ARE THE FIRST MALE STRIPPER WE HAVE EVER HAD POSTING IN W2MW ...

    ANYWAY.....WHATEVER DUDE.....AT LEAST I HAVE 76 THOUSAND FRIGGIN CREDITS AND YOU ONLY HAVE 13.NOW GO BACK TO THE BASSBARN BEFORE I TAKE YOUR BRASS POLE FROM YA...

    AND .....QUOTING JON BON JOVI: "HAVE A NICE DAY"

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    We may not be the bestest of friends ol boxo.. but your 100 percent right and you would think people would wake up already but not yet!!

    Still got tons of love for ya brother!!!

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    Thumbs up the sites are clearly...

    dependent on geographical location...

    noreast.com = new england fishermen.

    bloodydecks.com = west coast

    sfc = south eastern usa , world wide.

    bassbarn= mid atlantic



    sfc has the most credible, reliable, and knowledgeable offshore fishing information. hands down

    the bass barn has more of a local vibe and many guys who have an intimate knowledge of backwater fishing.

    most guys belong to both communities.


    that said i post on both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripers&Strippers View Post
    ...being in the IT field and a consultant to businesses who are looking to increase site traffic, I must tell you that the Alexa rankings are a joke and not indicative of reall traffic since the numbers are easily and often times readily manipulated, many times by the site owners themselves. Not saying that is happening here, but in all reality, there are better traffic ranking sites out there.

    I commend you for your passion and all but...how can you possibly compare communities using Alexa rankings? Anyone who knows anything about the internet and internet ranking, knows Alexa is a complete JOKE! Those numbers are so
    ridiculously skewed it isn't funny! Not to mention the fact that crafty webmasters make a living out of manipulating those numbers. Yes, Alexa's traffic rankings are very easily manipulated!

    One of the things you failed to mention while pointing out the various sites and their Alexa rankings (joke). You never mentioned the fact that Alexa (joke) gathers it's rankings from users who have the Alexa Toolbar installed. If you don't have the toolbar installed, your visits don't count.
    The whole Alexa ranking thing is a complete JOKE!

    Here is an informative article by a guy named, Loren Barker. The article is titled: Alexa: Worthless & Easy To Manipulate Here is a quote from the article:



    Do a Google search on "how to manipulate alexa." You'll find page, after page, after page, on how easy it is to manipulate Alexa rankings.

    When it comes to online communities & want to get a feel for a websites traffic, the numbers are right in front of your face; views, replies and daily active topics are the things people in the know look for (i.e potential advertisers).

    For example, a lot of guys like, Canyon Runner, Kilsong, and Over Under Adventures post duplicate reports on several sites, often times at the same time or within a few minutes of each other. By comparing the number of views, you can get a good gauge on a communities traffic.

    Another thing to look at, most online communities run the same vBulletin software. Click on "Quick Links" in the upper right corner of the messageboard. From there click on "Today's Active Posts." This will give you the number of active topics for a 24hr period. You will need to be logged in to see the links.

    This is another easy way to determine a communities
    traffic/activity. Sites with a high number of daily active topics are usually those with the most traffic. Makes sense, don't it? To me it makes a lot more sense then using some ridiculous Alexa rankings.

    I will give you another example of how big a joke Alexa rankings are. I'm looking at the sites you mentioned; SFC, Tidalfish, Bloody Decks, In The Bite and the Bass Barn. Of the 5, the Bass BARN had the worse Alexa ranking of them
    all, coming in at 21,820,947.

    Yet when I visited these sites you mentioned, the Bass Barn has more views/replies on duplicate posts, and more daily active topics then all of them. HOw can a site ranked 21,820,947 by Alexa, double, triple and sometimes
    quadruple sites ranked, 105,261, 158,031, 135,710, 1,675,985 in these areas? It's because Alexa rankings are a joke!



    If you're wondering why people choose to advertise at the bassbarn or any other site named, why don't you ask some of them? The last time I checked they had a long list of supporters, all very easy to contact. I doubt they're going tell you their support has anyting to do with Alexa.

    Just my $0.02 on Alexa.
    You are of course, quite right. I am sorry you were attacked for stating the obvious.

    As an Admin on a couple of other sites I can say that the stats available on vbulletin boards speak for themselves.

    With that said, there is a lot more that goes into deciding where to advertise than just rankings. If it was just rankings, I'd go advertise on Drudge

    Just like anybody spending money, advertisers are looking for the best bang for their buck.

    A webmaster can simply look at his site's statistics and he can tell where his advertising dollars are giving him the best result.

    There are also other intangibles which can make it valuable to advertise on a particular site.

    I am a proud SFC advertiser. This is even though my type of business doesn't really get that big of return. Honestly, not that many people on this site are going to end up in Mexico any time soon looking for a charter. Some of course will and they are very much appreciated.

    But it's not near the return I get from advertising on sites that deal with Mexico vacations. These are guys already planning to go to Mexico and are looking for activities they can enjoy.

    I advertise on SFC because it is part of a community that I am a member of. SFC, if only by its presence, supports that community and helps it to exist. By supporting SFC, I am also supporting that community.

    I am probably making this more complicated than needs be...sorry about that.

    Anyway, there's a lot more than rankings at play when deciding where to advertise.

    It's a great site and I am happy to contribute financially to it's survival.

    Viva SFC !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasabi View Post
    You are of course, quite right. I am sorry you were attacked for stating the obvious.

    As an Admin on a couple of other sites I can say that the stats available on vbulletin boards speak for themselves.
    Thank you for seeing my points.

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    IT IS NICE TO SEE STRIPERS & STRIPPERS FOUND THE TIME TO VACATE HIS BRASS POLE AND JOIN SFC AND ENTER THE WORLD SO THAT HE COULD BRING US HIS LECTURE SERIES ON "ALEXA DOT COM"....I AM FLATTERED THAT YOU SIGNED UP JUST TO BARK AT THE EL BOXO....
    My intention wasn't to "bark" at you EL BOXO! My reply was to clear up delusions regarding bogus Alexa rankings.

    If you're gonna sell us on having the #1 traffic ranked fishing forum in the world, go for it! But don't use bogus Alexa rankings to do it. It's too easy for someone to compare views, replies and active topics from other forums to know better.

    I don't want to see you loose your Sniper rod in a bet

    If you ask my 85 yr old grandmother, she'll tell you I am the nicest, most handsome young man in the world. The reality of that means it's biased & don't mean crapola in the real world.

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    dependent on geographical location...

    noreast.com = new england fishermen.

    bloodydecks.com = west coast

    sfc = south eastern usa , world wide.

    bassbarn= mid atlantic

    Thank you for the breakdown Zar, but none of this was ever in question.

    I stuck my nose in when I read Wahoonbox compare a handful of fishing forums traffic via Alexa's bogus traffic rankings. Stevie Wonder can see that the bass barn has more traffic (views, replies and active topics) then inthebite.com, yet ITB.com is ranked 1,675,985 and the bass barn is ranked 21,820,947. The same goes for other comparisions as well.

    Look at the views, replies and daily active topics. You don't have to have any special permissions. The numbers are right there in front of all of us.

    It's simple & doesn't involve the smoke & mirrors that is the driving force of alexa.

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