need help rigging hoos

shiv67 · 07-07-2008, 05:24 PM

I know the basics, but went out trolling on sunday and just could not get the hoos to run right, all they did was spin and we were trolling at a slow speed, the only one that was right was an skirted one but all the nakeds were spinning but none of them were weighted would that made any difference any suggestions please

Ace1st · 07-07-2008, 05:37 PM

Probably cause the bend of the hook was pulling against the belly of the Bally. After rigging, hold the leader in hand and pull the tail of the bally, if it pulls against the belly, it will most likely spin. If it does pull the belly, take a sharp fillet knife and cut a small slice in front of the bend. Repeat the process till it does not pull against the belly. This helps me to do this, try it and see if it works for you.

WAHOONBOX · 07-07-2008, 06:35 PM

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PIC OF ONE YOU HAVE RIGGED.....THEN YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR PROBLEM SOLVED I PROMISE....

TOUGH QUESTION HERE TO ANSWER WITH A KEYBOARD BRO

.....HANDS ON TUITORING WITH A MATE OR CAPTIAN BY YOUR SIDE WHO DOES THIS REGUALARLY WOULD BE HELPFUL

THE ANSWER GIVEN ABOVE IS VERY CORRECT....THE BALLYHOO SHOULD BE PULLED BY THE "BILL AREA " INSTEAD OF UNWANTED PRESSURE ON THE HOOK'S EXIT HOLE

WHAT SIZE AND TYPE OF HOOK DID YOU HAVE?

O-SEA-D · 07-08-2008, 08:31 AM

Sounds like all the hoo's I rig

1 thing you can do to help yourself out if your having problems is this;

Put the bait flat in your hand and lay the hook next to the bait where its going to be when your rig it inside the bait.
Mark the spot on the belly with your thumb where the bend of the hook is going to come out of the belly of the bait.
Then take the point of the hook and make a small hole in the center of the belly at the spot your have marked with your thumb.

When you do this your hook should come out in the right spot every time. It is more time consuming, but your hook placement should be correct each time.

If there is any tension on the front of the hook at the bend from the belly of the bait, it will spin like a helo.

shiv67 · 07-10-2008, 10:45 PM

thanks for your help, planning on a trip on sat. let you guys know how i made out.

Bert Rodgers · 07-11-2008, 08:37 AM

Are you pin rigging or monel rigging?With monel I twist the monel to the hook leaving a 6 inch tag end and about 10 inches on the hook end. I then wrap the tag end around the crimp. After I insert the hook I push the tag end of the monel up through the "pin" spot and wrap the mouth closed. Then the back end of the monel goes around the gills, 2 wtraps behind the wieght, 2 wraps infront of the wieght and then twisted over the nose.

I thought about this rig for while before I decided to try it, and guess what? It worked.

Bert

hotshot1 · 07-11-2008, 09:51 AM

go to videos section there are loads of videos to show you how to do it . I made a 25 minute dvd on circle hooks the other night

MAKO19 · 07-11-2008, 05:15 PM

I think a lot of guys mark the location of the hole where the hook shank starts it's bend. I use to make this mistake all the time. The hook is mostly likey sticking out to far. I agree cutting a slit will work but I don't like this as the bait will wash out faster.

Reel life · 07-11-2008, 09:34 PM

all the awnsers are correct
you need need see one of box's swim
it will pass the boat

Jack Hexter · 07-12-2008, 11:02 AM

In addition to making sure the bait id pulled from the head/bill and not the belly/hook bend, I'd gently squeeze the bait, breaking the bones to make it more limber and squeezing the poop and air bladder out the vent.

07-07-2008, 05:24 PM	#1
shiv67 Sail boats suck Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Posts: 6 Credits: 1,201.3 Boat: BROTHER'S GRADY Home Port: INDIAN RIVER, DE Occupation: lineman	need help rigging hoos I know the basics, but went out trolling on sunday and just could not get the hoos to run right, all they did was spin and we were trolling at a slow speed, the only one that was right was an skirted one but all the nakeds were spinning but none of them were weighted would that made any difference any suggestions please

07-07-2008, 06:35 PM	#3
WAHOONBOX I'M SPEECHLESS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MOREHEAD CITY NC 28557 Posts: 14,800 Credits: 37,831.5 Boat: I AM A FREELANCER Home Port: MOREHEAD CITY, NC Best Catch: PONEYTAIL Occupation: OFFSHORE MATE VIDEOGRAPHER	BALLYHOO PREP PRIOR HOOK PLACEMENT IS ESSENTIAL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PIC OF ONE YOU HAVE RIGGED.....THEN YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR PROBLEM SOLVED I PROMISE.... TOUGH QUESTION HERE TO ANSWER WITH A KEYBOARD BRO .....HANDS ON TUITORING WITH A MATE OR CAPTIAN BY YOUR SIDE WHO DOES THIS REGUALARLY WOULD BE HELPFUL THE ANSWER GIVEN ABOVE IS VERY CORRECT....THE BALLYHOO SHOULD BE PULLED BY THE "BILL AREA " INSTEAD OF UNWANTED PRESSURE ON THE HOOK'S EXIT HOLE WHAT SIZE AND TYPE OF HOOK DID YOU HAVE? __________________ I STRONGLY SUPPORT: DEEP DIVING AND EASY TRIPPIN' OLD SALTY PLANERS FINRAZOR RODS & THE ABSOLUTELY DEEPER ATTACK WEAPON: SNIPER PLANER RODS THE GIANT BLUEFIN TUNA HEART STOPPER: POON HARPOON

07-08-2008, 08:31 AM	#4
O-SEA-D I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Newport, NC Posts: 2,885 Credits: 1,528.7 Boat: 2000 26 Hydra Sports Home Port: MHC, NC Occupation: Telecomm Technician, Freelance Mate	Sounds like all the hoo's I rig 1 thing you can do to help yourself out if your having problems is this; Put the bait flat in your hand and lay the hook next to the bait where its going to be when your rig it inside the bait. Mark the spot on the belly with your thumb where the bend of the hook is going to come out of the belly of the bait. Then take the point of the hook and make a small hole in the center of the belly at the spot your have marked with your thumb. When you do this your hook should come out in the right spot every time. It is more time consuming, but your hook placement should be correct each time. If there is any tension on the front of the hook at the bend from the belly of the bait, it will spin like a helo. __________________ Offshore Innovations Draggin Eyes Lures SQUIDNATION THERMZ Performance Wear John McGinty O-SEA-D 26' Hydra Sports

07-11-2008, 08:37 AM	#6
Bert Rodgers I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,156 Credits: 1,618.7	No spin zone Are you pin rigging or monel rigging?With monel I twist the monel to the hook leaving a 6 inch tag end and about 10 inches on the hook end. I then wrap the tag end around the crimp. After I insert the hook I push the tag end of the monel up through the "pin" spot and wrap the mouth closed. Then the back end of the monel goes around the gills, 2 wtraps behind the wieght, 2 wraps infront of the wieght and then twisted over the nose. I thought about this rig for while before I decided to try it, and guess what? It worked. Bert __________________ gattcallemlikiseem

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07-07-2008, 05:37 PM	#2
Ace1st Crab mustard is good Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 928 Credits: 1,964.8 Boat: Sea Vee CC Home Port: Little River Best Catch: Lucy!! Occupation: Real Estate Agent	Probably cause the bend of the hook was pulling against the belly of the Bally. After rigging, hold the leader in hand and pull the tail of the bally, if it pulls against the belly, it will most likely spin. If it does pull the belly, take a sharp fillet knife and cut a small slice in front of the bend. Repeat the process till it does not pull against the belly. This helps me to do this, try it and see if it works for you.

07-10-2008, 10:45 PM	#5
shiv67 Sail boats suck Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Posts: 6 Credits: 1,201.3 Boat: BROTHER'S GRADY Home Port: INDIAN RIVER, DE Occupation: lineman	thanks for your help, planning on a trip on sat. let you guys know how i made out.

07-11-2008, 09:51 AM	#7
hotshot1 Crab mustard is good Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Matawan NJ Posts: 814 Credits: 1,674.0 Occupation: veterinarian	go to videos section there are loads of videos to show you how to do it . I made a 25 minute dvd on circle hooks the other night

07-11-2008, 05:15 PM	#8
MAKO19 Bite me Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Washington TWP., Sea Isle City, NJ Posts: 223 Credits: 1,543.1 Occupation: Mechanical Engineer	I think a lot of guys mark the location of the hole where the hook shank starts it's bend. I use to make this mistake all the time. The hook is mostly likey sticking out to far. I agree cutting a slit will work but I don't like this as the bait will wash out faster.

07-11-2008, 09:34 PM	#9
Reel life I wear cool logos Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 58 Credits: 1,371.8 Boat: Reel life Home Port: swansboro	all the awnsers are correct you need need see one of box's swim it will pass the boat

07-12-2008, 11:02 AM	#10
Jack Hexter I practice safe fishing Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 66 Credits: 1,229.8	In addition to making sure the bait id pulled from the head/bill and not the belly/hook bend, I'd gently squeeze the bait, breaking the bones to make it more limber and squeezing the poop and air bladder out the vent.