N.C. drilling article

[captnemo]

Originally Posted by d-a

You should look at your facts before making that kind of statement

Compliant Tower
A compliant tower consists of a narrow tower and a piled foundation. Unlike a fixed
platform, a compliant tower has greater flexibility and can withstand large lateral forces by
sustaining significant lateral deflections. It is usually deployed in water depths between
1,000 and 2,000 ft (305 and 610 m).

Pg 45 and 46 here....Plus Ive fished it myself http://www.gomr.mms.gov/PDFs/2008/2008-013.pdf

d-a

"UNLIKE A FIXED PLATFORM" One piling is not a platform, sorry dude you can't set up a drilling rig on ONE narrow piling...keep searching, but you wont find ANY drilling or production platforms with anything near 1500 water depth range.

Trust me this is what I do for a living, I work for the biggest drilling contractor in the world and am very familiar with our 138 rig fleet. We have jack up rigs and deep water floaters. Max water depth is no where near 1500 ft not even 1000ft. If you want to argue just to argue, pick a fight with someone else.

[luna sea II]

Originally Posted by captnemo

Fact check, sorry this is just not true, the technology is not available right now to have platforms in 1500ft of water, in the gulf oil field. They are all floaters at that point.

bp989 is in 1290 feet of water and is a jacketed rig(prefab structure going from top to bottom) 30 miles east of south pass out of venice.Bullwinkle is in 1400ft in green canyon and I believe the deepest jacketed rig in the world. when you get into depths of >1500ft they use tension leg floating plarforms and drillships for drilling and spars and tension leg platforms(TLP) for production. we have several production platforms within 60 miles of south pass in over 6000ft and one in 8000ft called Independence Hub that set a depth record for oil and gas production. TLP's structure goes 100-200ft down and is tethered to the bottom by chains and cables. spar platforms go 300-600ft under the surface. believe me, this is plenty of underwater structure to attract and hold fish. at these depths i'm only interested in the top 200-300ft anyway.

[scalez]

WOW ! This board is great. All this first hand knowledge. Heck, I didn't know the technology existed to set a legged platform in the depths beyond 2-300 feet. Even the floaters would give the structure for much better catching.

So, from some of you guys with first hand knowledge --- what is the downside ??? Not the typical 'the sky will fall' BS we get from the environmentalist elites but the straight dope ? Should we be concerned about the shore support infrastructure?

Remember NC has no experience with this stuff but we do have the resources on a limited scale.

[d-a]

Originally Posted by captnemo

"UNLIKE A FIXED PLATFORM" One piling is not a platform, sorry dude you can't set up a drilling rig on ONE narrow piling...keep searching, but you wont find ANY drilling or production platforms with anything near 1500 water depth range.

Trust me this is what I do for a living, I work for the biggest drilling contractor in the world and am very familiar with our 138 rig fleet. We have jack up rigs and deep water floaters. Max water depth is no where near 1500 ft not even 1000ft. If you want to argue just to argue, pick a fight with someone else.

Dude you need to get educated since you work in the Industry. If you would look at the link i provided for YOU, you would have seen that the compliant tower still has the leg supports that a normal fixed tower does except they go straight down instead of out wider.

Also there's more than 138 rigs in the gulf and all are not operated by ONE company. Just because your company doesn't have one doesn't mean there is not one out there.

Oh and I'm not arguing, I'm stating the actual facts that I have backed up with documents

d-a

[luna sea II]

Originally Posted by scalez

WOW ! This board is great. All this first hand knowledge. Heck, I didn't know the technology existed to set a legged platform in the depths beyond 2-300 feet. Even the floaters would give the structure for much better catching.

So, from some of you guys with first hand knowledge --- what is the downside ??? Not the typical 'the sky will fall' BS we get from the environmentalist elites but the straight dope ? Should we be concerned about the shore support infrastructure?

Remember NC has no experience with this stuff but we do have the resources on a limited scale.

not much downside to offshore drilling. you'll have alot more boat traffic and they(oil companys) will buy land and build docks.
some benifits--

[captnemo]

Originally Posted by d-a

Also there's more than 138 rigs in the gulf and all are not operated by ONE company. Just because your company doesn't have one doesn't mean there is not one out there.

No freakin shit sherlock, how did you come to that majestic conclusion. What you refuse to understand is what is going to go on off the coast of NC is EXPLORATION DRILLING, I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, THE ONLY DEEPWATER EXPLORATION RIGS THAT WILL BE OFF THE COAST OF NC WILL BE FLOATERS. DRILL SHIPS AND SEMI-SUBS. YOU ARE POSTING INFORMATION FROM DEVELOPED PRODUCTION FIELDS, THIS IS 2 DECADES AWAY MINIMUM FOR NC. NOW GO BACK TO YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH AND FIND A 50 PAGE DOCUMENT ABOUT PRODUCTION PLATFORM THEORY AND POST IT SO YOU LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.

[Asylum]

Originally Posted by captnemo

No freakin shit sherlock, how did you come to that majestic conclusion. What you refuse to understand is what is going to go on off the coast of NC is EXPLORATION DRILLING, I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, THE ONLY DEEPWATER EXPLORATION RIGS THAT WILL BE OFF THE COAST OF NC WILL BE FLOATERS. DRILL SHIPS AND SEMI-SUBS. YOU ARE POSTING INFORMATION FROM DEVELOPED PRODUCTION FIELDS, THIS IS 2 DECADES AWAY MINIMUM FOR NC. NOW GO BACK TO YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH AND FIND A 50 PAGE DOCUMENT ABOUT PRODUCTION PLATFORM THEORY AND POST IT SO YOU LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.

Well said. Nice to see someone who has an understanding of the subject matter. You guys all fish out there in these waters. Think about all the environmental forces going on out there. Remember those days that you can't deepdrop or jig on a certain set of numbers because your small boat couldn't sit on top of it, or your braid was gettin pushed by the current? Scale up that operation now several hundred feet. Lot harder to do.

I haven't seen how the propsed leases would be set up but if and when I do, I wi provide further nuggets.

Btw. Just because a "jacketed" rig does exist in 1700' of water, it doesn't mean you will necessarily see one ever again. There is a learning curve in the drilling industry. Captnemo's company happens to be at the forefront of it.

[Glenn W]

It's interesting to me what you guys are asking for, or say you want----
Since GW Bush lifted the offshore drilling ban in July 2008, as far as I know, not a single lease has been entered into on the Atlantic Seaboard,
Currently, wellhead natural gas prices are about $5.00/MCF, and oil is in the $80/Bbl neighborhood. Estimates for the feasibily of even considering new offshore exploration and then drilling ( from energy companies' perspective) are in the $14.00/MCF and $150/bbl range. These estimates are based on sustainable prices--- not just short term price blips. With a price of $150/bbl we're talking about retail prices of gas in the $4.50 to $5.00/ gallon range.

Who in the hell would be able to afford all the benefits of these new rigs off the Atlantic coast---- even if they were able to find large enough quantities to make such production off NC feasible?--- which is highly unlikely.

Suit yourselves, I'm more satisfied paying $2.25- $2.50/gal for fuel--- without all this "wonderful" structure and new developement.

[Asylum]

Originally Posted by Glenn W

It's interesting to me what you guys are asking for, or say you want----
Since GW Bush lifted the offshore drilling ban in July 2008, as far as I know, not a single lease has been entered into on the Atlantic Seaboard,
Currently, wellhead natural gas prices are about $5.00/MCF, and oil is in the $80/Bbl neighborhood. Estimates for the feasibily of even considering new offshore exploration and then drilling ( from energy companies' perspective) are in the $14.00/MCF and $150/bbl range. These estimates are based on sustainable prices--- not just short term price blips. With a price of $150/bbl we're talking about retail prices of gas in the $4.50 to $5.00/ gallon

Who in the hell would be able to afford all the benefits of these new rigs off the Atlantic coast---- even if they were able to find large enough quantities to make such production off NC feasible?--- which is highly unlikely.

Suit yourselves, I'm more satisfied paying $2.25- $2.50/gal for fuel--- without all this "wonderful" structure and new developement.

Glenn just trying to understand your statement, no arguement intended. Are you saying that oil companies are no longer performing exploratory drilling at all, because of cost? Or just off of the East Coast?

[luna sea II]

Originally Posted by Glenn W

It's interesting to me what you guys are asking for, or say you want----
Since GW Bush lifted the offshore drilling ban in July 2008, as far as I know, not a single lease has been entered into on the Atlantic Seaboard,
Currently, wellhead natural gas prices are about $5.00/MCF, and oil is in the $80/Bbl neighborhood. Estimates for the feasibily of even considering new offshore exploration and then drilling ( from energy companies' perspective) are in the $14.00/MCF and $150/bbl range. These estimates are based on sustainable prices--- not just short term price blips. With a price of $150/bbl we're talking about retail prices of gas in the $4.50 to $5.00/ gallon range.

Who in the hell would be able to afford all the benefits of these new rigs off the Atlantic coast---- even if they were able to find large enough quantities to make such production off NC feasible?--- which is highly unlikely.

Suit yourselves, I'm more satisfied paying $2.25- $2.50/gal for fuel--- without all this "wonderful" structure and new developement.

how much longer do you think you'll be paying $2.25-$2.50 for fuel?