Hatteras ORV Closure legal stuff

[Glenn W]

The following are the requested ( Preliminary injunction) closure areas in the Defenders of Wildlife lawsuit to close ORV traffic on Hatteras and Occracoke:

[Glenn W]

Boring to most, but may prove helpful to those wanting to know exactly what the plaintiffs are requesting:

[Bite Me]

Jeezuz Glenn,

That first shot looks like my liver, the second my foot and the third well, you get the idea.

[SAXIS ISLANDER]

Glen - haven't been following this too closely...Why does the Defenders of Wildlife want this closure? Friggin Piping Plovers?? Are they seeking it permanently?

I'm not an avid surf fisherman, but occasionally like to drive down the beach for recreational purposes. The Assateague National Seashore has vast sections of the beach closed from late May through July due to the piping plover nests. It's a real pain and it seems that these birds have more rights than you and I.

Having paid for the access maintence and general upkeep/repair of these areas through our taxes and permits we are threatened with being denied access??? There's something wrong with that picture.

[Glenn W]

CL, here is a link to a summary of their position. If interested in the entire complaint it can be found in this link under "suit SELC filed in October, 2007"
http://www.southernenvironment.org/c...eras/index.htm

[SAXIS ISLANDER]

Very interesting link - -provides a timeline of the controversy. That pic of the crowded point looks a little dated and I'm sure is not symbolic of daily activity.

Thanks for the info - -I'll try to keep up.

[TriAngler]

Here's a summary article from this week's Raleigh paper:

http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/1021824.html

(Dang Lou - sorry your topo map has shifted to facing the southern end of the compass rose - time for better living through pharmaceuticals!)

We rent a house at Hatteras 3-4 times a year to surf fish. I'm currently holding my spring plans until this is decided. What a shame.

[neilinov]

Yet the past two years have been the best period for the piping plover since 1999, with six breeding pairs in 2006 and 2007, still short of the 14 pairs that nested in 1996.

According to an analysis prepared by consultants for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, about 800 businesses in the area that would be affected by a ban generate approximately $549 million in annual sales.

Unbelievable, a dozen birds will stop 1/2 a billion dollars from comming into the local exonomy. I never really understood why this bird is so important to us. Can someone explain why? I think that the only people that it is really important to is the Environmental Trial lawyers. They aren't suing the national parks for free. Someone is paying their bills.

[Tsukiji]

Unbelievable, a dozen birds will stop 1/2 a billion dollars from comming into the local exonomy. I never really understood why this bird is so important to us. Can someone explain why? I think that the only people that it is really important to is the Environmental Trial lawyers. They aren't suing the national parks for free. Someone is paying their bills.

Toyota gave them 20 million. Don't make sense when they sell ORV. They say only 12% close but that 12% is some of the best fishing down there. All of the inlets. They say more birds nest on Wally World than on the beach.