Crimpless Bridle???

[dry_aku]

i'm fimiliar with the "normal" Box set-up for the planer bridle, but i was wondering...are there any disadvantages using a crimpless bridle system?

got about 600-700 yards of 130# backing with 250 yard of 150# braid (dark green) on a tiagra 80. can i just tie two loop knots (31 inches apart) about 120ft from the end of my braid? then use a french clip (or similiar) where the braid ends and run a normal 12-15ft mono leader to my lure?

are there any disadvantages using braid as the majority of the leader to the lure AND are there any disadvantages not have the mono/crimp bridle system that Box has designed?

[WAHOONBOX]

DUDE....BRO.....MY FRIEND... MY FELLOW FISHERMAN....


PALEEESE GO OUT AND PUT YOUR METHOD IN QUESTION HERE TO THE TEST BRO.. ......DO IT AND PERFECT IT....GO DO YOUR THING BRO ....TRIAL AND ERROR.... DO THIS, CHANGE THAT...AND BRING THE TEST RESULTS BACK TO US

THE DROP LOOP THING WAS THE FIRST "EXPERIMENT" THAT I EVER TRIED BACK IN THE LATE 1980'S AND I USED THIS FOR A COUPLE YEARS....AND LATER... MOVED ON TO YET ANOTHER METHOD.......SOME PEOPLE STILL USE THE DROPPER LOOP TO THIS DAY AND TO EACH HIS OWN METHOD.....


BUT I WISH JUST ONCE .....SOMEONE WILL GO OUT AND DO THE TRIAL AND ERROR THING ......PUT IN THE TIME WITH SOME RESEARCH AND PERFECT A TRICK IN THE OFFSHORE WORLD... ....AND THEN SHARE THE WEALTH WITH THE REST OF US

ROCK ON.....

[Fish Dad]

Originally Posted by WAHOONBOX

DUDE....BRO.....MY FRIEND... MY FELLOW FISHERMAN....


PALEEESE GO OUT AND PUT YOUR METHOD IN QUESTION HERE TO THE TEST BRO.. ......DO IT AND PERFECT IT....GO DO YOUR THING BRO ....TRIAL AND ERROR.... DO THIS, CHANGE THAT...AND BRING THE TEST RESULTS BACK TO US

THE DROP LOOP THING WAS THE FIRST "EXPERIMENT" THAT I EVER TRIED BACK IN THE LATE 1980'S AND I USED THIS FOR A COUPLE YEARS....AND LATER... MOVED ON TO YET ANOTHER METHOD.......SOME PEOPLE STILL USE THE DROPPER LOOP TO THIS DAY AND TO EACH HIS OWN METHOD.....


BUT I WISH JUST ONCE .....SOMEONE WILL GO OUT AND DO THE TRIAL AND ERROR THING ......PUT IN THE TIME WITH SOME RESEARCH AND PERFECT A TRICK IN THE OFFSHORE WORLD... ....AND THEN SHARE THE WEALTH WITH THE REST OF US

ROCK ON.....

And you wonder why some of us don't bother asking questions here if a simple question get such a hateful response.

[pitch bait]

I didnt think that was hateful. I though he was hopinbg the guy might come up with a new better way and share for everyone to enjoy.


Now on back to the topic.


DRY_AKU
I would like to see the bait alittle further back from the planner myself. Im not sure why but it seems like the tunas and wahoos like to have the bait away from the planner say 80 feet atleast one hundred feet is better. Now if you are using it to troll sharks just put the hook on the planner and you will catch them. Seems the big toothy ones like to eat the planners. I hope this helps. Im just like you I like to tweek things to make it my own.

[WAHOONBOX]

Originally Posted by Fish Dad

And you wonder why some of us don't bother asking questions here if a simple question get such a hateful response.

HAVE THEY BANNED YOU ON TIDALFISH OR SOMETHING?

AND QUIT CALLING MY HOUSE AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT........FOR THE LAST TIME ......I AM STRAIGHT!

[Fish Dad]

You only wished somebody would stalk you because that would mean somebody actually cared.

[WAHOONBOX]

Originally Posted by Fish Dad

You only wished somebody would stalk you because that would mean somebody actually cared.

I AM NOT GAY ....I LOVE WOMEN.... DO NOT CALL MY HOUSE ANYMORE. YOU ARE SCARING MY BETTER HALF TO DEATH

IF THIS CONTINUES YOU WILL HEAR FROM MY ATTORNEY AND THE LAW.

SFC DOES NOT NEED YOU....SO GO BACK TO TIDALFISH WHERE THEY TOLERATE YOUR CRAP.....

[clt_capt]

I think Marty is dead on - you can copy what works and have good or even great success, but like many other things in this world, there is probably no single right answer.

Sea Draggin put up a great post for his bridle rig using
a bimini for the lead loop and knots and long line clips. I'm sure you can find it in a search.

I'm kinda partial to the crimped bridle for a couple of reasons;
a) spectra line is great stuff until you nick it under
tension - it just goes pop. I'd rather cut back a few feet
of braid daily than 100+ ft. I don't want frayed braid
to cause me to lose the whole rig.

b) I can have spares pre-rigged and sitting on hand reels so I can quickly get my planer back out when (not if) I nick
the braid and lose the whole mess. I don't have to worry about measuring out 132' of braid and retying the knots on the water. All I have to do is tie a surgeon's look in the mainline, cats paw in the spro and a pair of crimps to make the forward loop. Back in the water in less than 5 mins.

If you want to use a knotted braid bridle go for it. I've made a few samples, and I'm not happy with the way the knots go through the tip guide. Maybe you can create a better mousetrap.

[dry_aku]

Originally Posted by pitch bait

DRY_AKU
I would like to see the bait alittle further back from the planner myself. Im not sure why but it seems like the tunas and wahoos like to have the bait away from the planner say 80 feet atleast one hundred feet is better. Now if you are using it to troll sharks just put the hook on the planner and you will catch them. Seems the big toothy ones like to eat the planners. I hope this helps. Im just like you I like to tweek things to make it my own.

thanks for the straight up response. with "my" method, the bait would still be back about 135ft from the planer (120ft of dark green braid and about 15ft of 200-300# mono leader).

to me it seems the strenght of the knots aren't really a factor..so that covers the crimpless bridle part. i guess what i really would like to know is would the 120ft of dark green braid off the planer (or the clip where the lure leader is attached) reduce my chances of getting a strike, due to the visibility of the line, clip, etc?

[Fish Dad]

Originally Posted by WAHOONBOX

I AM NOT GAY ....I LOVE WOMEN.... DO NOT CALL MY HOUSE ANYMORE. YOU ARE SCARING MY BETTER HALF TO DEATH

IF THIS CONTINUES YOU WILL HEAR FROM MY ATTORNEY AND THE LAW.

SFC DOES NOT NEED YOU....SO GO BACK TO TIDALFISH WHERE THEY TOLERATE YOUR CRAP.....

I think I'm comfortable right here giving you a hard time in your world.