BUYING A SHARE N TOURNAMENTS

[WAHOONBOX]

THIS THREAD IS IN NO WAY DIRECTED TOWARDS ANY INDIVIDUAL, BOAT OR CREW.....



I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE AND PRIVILEGE TO FISH MANY MANY EAST COAST TOURNYS AND SOME IN THE BAHAMAS.....FROM TARPON TO SPANISH TO WAHOO TO BILLFISH........AND I HAVE LOST A MANY OF THEM IN DOING SO..



ONE THING I CAN REMEMBER SO WELL ....A MEMORY SO ETCHED IN MY MIND IS THE STRESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER A TOURNAMENT CREW....A LOT OF STRESS.....

A CREW OF PLAYERS SIGNS UP TO FISH BOAT X .....A CREW THAT PAYS OUT A PRE-DETERMINED DOLLAR TO FISH AND THEN IN RETURN IF MONEY IS WON....TO RECEIVE BACK A % OF ANY WINNINGS.......THIS IS MY TOPIC HERE.......

THIS IS A SERIOUS THING PEOPLE......THIS IS NOT A GAME.....

THE SPORTFISHERMEN DOT COM OFFSHORE DICTIONARY DEFINES TOURNY STRESS AS : THE CONTINUED PROMISE OF MAILING ONE'S TOURNAMENT ENTRY MONEY TO THE BOAT OWNER ..."I'LL GET IT OUT NEXT FRIDAY".......THEN NEVER SENDING IT ...AND THEN HEAVEN FORBID......CANCELLING OUT 2 DAYS BEFORE SHOWTIME....

A PURE CASE OF TOTAL BULSHIT I CALL IT........THERE IS NO CANCELLING...AND THERE IS NO REFUNDS ONCE YOU PAY UP....... ONCE YOU PAY UP THATS IT AND YOU ARE ION LIKE FLINT WHOEVER THE HELL FLINT IS.......AND IF YOU SHOULD DIE FOR ANY REASON PRIOR TO THE TOURNY...HAVE YOUR SURVIVING LOVED ONES SEND THE CHECK .....

NEVER SHOW UP AT A TOURNY AND PAY THE BOAT OWNER WITH A FREAKING CHECK! GEEZUS H IF THIS WON'T PUT A POOR BOY IN A BIND! CASH .....BRING CASH !

NOW THAT IS FRIGGING STRESS PEOPLE.

NOT ONLY ARE YOU PUTTING STRESS TO IT'S MAX...YOU ARE CREATING A CARDINAL SIN AND SHOULD BE PIMPED SLAMPED BY SHAFT HIMSELF IF YOU CANCEL OUT AT THE LAST MOMENT WITHOUT PROVIDING YOUR PLEDGED CASH FUNDS!

IF YOU PLAN ON FISHING ANY KIND OF TOURNAMENT......THINK IT OUT....THEN EITHER COMMIT OR DECLINE......THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN.... WORK OUT THE "DETAILS" OF PAYMENT" PRIOR COMMITTING ..........KEEP IN MIND SOMETIMES TOURNAMENT WININGS ARE MAILED OUT TO WINNERS UP TO TWO WEEKS AFTER....SO BE PATIENT ON THIS.

THERE IS NO "MY GRANDMOTHER NEEDS ME TO TAKE HER TO THE DOCTOR EXCUSE" ....IN FACT ....THERE IS NO EXCUSE AFTER YOU COMMIT......SEND YOUR MONEY IN AS ORIGINALLY PLANNED AND WELL IN ADVANCE SO THE BOAT OWNER WILL NOT WORRY .....YOU WILL AND SHOULD STILL RECEIVE YOUR % OF THE WINNINGS WHETHER YOU ARE ONBOARD OR NOT..................

A TOURNAMENT IS A SHORT TERM BIZNESS THAT YOU PLAN TO GAMBLE WITH...I MEAN INVEST IN.......ONCE THE MONEY IS HANDED OVER FOR YOUR SHARE....THAT MONEY IS GONE...IT'S MONTGOMERY-GENTRY GONE LIKE A CIVIL WAR SOLDIER!.......AND IF BY HARD WORK AND GOOD FORTUNE YOU SHOULD PLACE IN THE MONEY.....BAMALAMA....YOU HAVE A BONUS CHECK COMING....



A FEW YEARS AGO I WAS MATING ON THE 48 "SCARLET FEVER" AND DOING THE HATTERAS VILLAGE OPEN...........THE BOAT OWNER BROUGHT IN THE "TWO PLAYERS" HERE TO SHARE TOURNY EXPENSES.....ONE WAS HIS MINISTER.....DO YOU BELIEVE IT?


WELL I HAD NO IDEA THAT NO ONE HAD ANTEED UP THEIR SHARE PRIOR TO TO THE CAPT MEETING PARTY MUCH LESS AFTER THE LAST DAY OF FISHING!

THE MINISTER AND HIS FRIEND WERE ABOUT TO DEPART FOR HOME AFTER TOURNYS END , WHEN THE BOAT OWNER ASKED>>..."ARE YOU GOING TO PAY ME YOUR SHARE OR WHAT? "..... TALK ABOUT BEING SPEECHLESS! I WAS FLOORED HERE!

THE MINISTER CAME BACK WITH : " SORRY , ....I DON'T HAVE IT..... WE WERE GOING TO PAY YOU FROM OUR WINNINGS"

OBVIOUSLY WE WERE NOT IN THE CHECK RECEIVING DEPT THAT TRIP...

THE MINISTER THEN CLIMBED IN HIS CAR HEADING HOME WITHOUT PUTTING HIS TITHE IN THE COLLECTION PLATE.


MAKE A TOURNAMENT COMMITTMENT AND THEN STICK WITH IT GUYS.

IF YOU COMMIT AND CANT GO....CERTAINLY YOU HAVE PAID YOUR SHARE WELL IN ADVANCE AS PROMISED AND THE BOAT OWNER WILL HAVE NO STRESS....


OH....AND ONE MORE THING....DON'T SHOW UP WITH A SURPRISE GUEST OF YOURS WITHOUT TALKING TO THE OWNER FIRST....

[gut fish ?]

Great post, I agree 100%

[Deep C]

Bravo Boxinator...

I too have seen this stuff all too often...I had four "we're bringing cash" do a no show at one event. Wouldn't change much except knock us out of one of the calcuttas. One of the ones who did pay was so upset about not being in that calcutta he backed out. We could have held his feet to the fire but the guy was being such an ass over it that everybody else dug deep and barfed up his share because we wanted no part of him being in on it...
Serves him right. We won some cash...

Another place that people often get jammed up is in over doing it on number of crew. I use for example a shark event. You have a one fish limit. If you kill your pig early you head for the scales then. Nobody else gets a shot. I have seen some guys want to go for "individual" angler bragging rights and leave them self in the number one angler position while the others watch unless there are multiple hook ups... Again stuff that needs to be sorted out long before comittments are even made...

[FinRazr]

Well done the only thing I would add is make sure it is crystal clear how the winnings if any will be split.I have seen this little ommision create some interesting situations.

[budwiller]

So, fish the tourny and pay nothing. I can't even imagine the look on the owners face. I have never fished a "major" billfish tourny, but the tension and stress....I can only imagine. I know how I have been personally just fishing King tournies and being responsible for payment and rigging but when you are talking hundreds of thousands at stake...

[pitch bait]

It should be in writing. Good friends or not a simple contract will cut out all the bull$hit. Friends shouldnt be offended by a contract they should be thankful they have protection also.

[FinRazr]

"THE MINISTER CAME BACK WITH : " SORRY , ....I DON'T HAVE IT..... WE WERE GOING TO PAY YOU FROM OUR WINNINGS"


I would have left the minister something extra special in the collection plate!

[floridadeckie]

shoulda thrown the daggum poon at his ass. drag him around by the poly ball till he paid up

[Squidnation]

Great topic Marty.

[Ravens16]

Pay in advance or you don't fish, 100% agree BOX