BFT KNOT

[FESS]

Can't say I've seen or tied a palomar like in that one in the link....not with the last loop going around the shank of the hook anyway.

The knot on the SFdot com knot page for a clinch knot is wrong I think.

Lyndon...I'm purdy sure the knot you're using is a two turn uni...just tied in way where u don't get that one sided lump like u do if u tie like most guides suggest....the knot you describe was used by most longliners in the early days (late 1970 and early 80's..so. florida)...it was easy to tie on heavy mono and could be left with a long tag to hang the squid mantel on, so the bait would hang straighter.
If u tie your uni's like you describe they come out a lot neater and don't have to be tightened so much to have it lay right like u do on most uni knot descriptions.

[knot for shore]

My knot tying practice has been going well! I should be ready and able for next year's run!!

Thanks for all the info!

[HOLWACHAGOT]

Can't say I've seen or tied a palomar like in that one in the link....not with the last loop going around the shank of the hook anyway.

The knot on the SFdot com knot page for a clinch knot is wrong I think.

Lyndon...I'm purdy sure the knot you're using is a two turn uni...just tied in way where u don't get that one sided lump like u do if u tie like most guides suggest....the knot you describe was used by most longliners in the early days (late 1970 and early 80's..so. florida)...it was easy to tie on heavy mono and could be left with a long tag to hang the squid mantel on, so the bait would hang straighter.
If u tie your uni's like you describe they come out a lot neater and don't have to be tightened so much to have it lay right like u do on most uni knot descriptions.

Me neither! I should have looked at the animation more closely. The line is never left around the hook shank if I tie it either. Another thing to remember about the palomar is to snug it with both lines then tighten from the tag end only. Sorry if the link confused you knot for shore.
Holwachagot

[knot for shore]

Me neither! I should have looked at the animation more closely. The line is never left around the hook shank if I tie it either. Another thing to remember about the palomar is to snug it with both lines then tighten from the tag end only. Sorry if the link confused you knot for shore.
Holwachagot

No problem. I don't know enough not to know.

[markm]

Like everyone else said, for trolling, crimps all the way. If you happen to run out of crimps, or feel better tying a knot, for mono or floro over 50 lb., I use a knot that I've called the heavy mono knot, original I know. It's real easy to tie, holds great, and is much more compact than a uni, which I use for lighter lines, by the way. All you do is once you pass the line through your hook eye of swivel, put your finger on the main line going to the rod tip. Wrap the tag end around the main line and your finger twice, then run the tag back through both loops around you finger, going from the hook toward you rod tip. Wet it down good, and pull it tight. This is the knot I use on all of my grouper rigs, and have yet to have any trouble with it.

This knot is called the "Grouper knot" by the Morehead City/Atlantic Beach head boat crews. It is a strong and fast knot for heavy mono. A commercial grouper captain told me to tie in 100 lb or greater to keep the knot from cutting itself under extreme pressure. Some friends use it in 80 lb though. I have always used the 100 or better rule and it has never failed. I am a fan of this knot especially for bottom fishing.

For trolling I use crimps on all leader material for BFT.Other knots used are as follows:
-From the rod double the line using a bimini(although I have seen a 4 or 5 turn surgeons knot used to double the line I like the bimini better)

-From the double to the swivel-offshore swivel knot/cats paw

-Crimp leader to swivel. Crimp hook to leader.

I am not a professional but everything I use I have seen on professional boats in the past and I defer to there experience. The best knot for any type of fishing is one you can tie correctly and fast on a pitching deck or any other less than ideal condition. Good luck on the BFT's.
Mark