Barta Tournament

[WAHOONBOX]

GLENN ....DO N OT CALL RANDY GREGORY....HE HAS BEEN ON THE WARPATH WITH PC AND THE BARTA CROWD ABOUT THE CIRLCE CRAP


FINAL RULING FROM THE TOURNY DIRECTOR TODAY TO ME: ....J HOOKS ALLOWED....CIRCLE ON A PITCH BAIT

[WAHOONBOX]

Will Barta be a Governor's Cup tourney this year without following Gov's Cup
Circle hook rules???

Ken

THERE WILL BE MAYBE 20 BOATS "REGISTERED " IN THE NC GOVERNORS CUP PARTICIPATING IN THE BARTA....MAYBE 20

THE OTHER 80 PLUS ENTRIES COULD PROBABLY CARE LESS ABOUT GOV CUP STUFF.....THIS TOURNY IS ABOUT RAISNING MONEY FOR THE B/G/CLUB....PERIOD

[Southwind]

Marty I agree, This should be a kid's tourney and Governor's cup participation will not affect the number of boats fishing with young anglers.

Ken

[deadbaiter]

THERE WILL BE MAYBE 20 BOATS "REGISTERED " IN THE NC GOVERNORS CUP PARTICIPATING IN THE BARTA....MAYBE 20

THE OTHER 80 PLUS ENTRIES COULD PROBABLY CARE LESS ABOUT GOV CUP STUFF.....THIS TOURNY IS ABOUT RAISNING MONEY FOR THE B/G/CLUB....PERIOD

The way the bite has been the last couple of years I find it hard to beleive that only 20 boats from the NC Governors Cup will fish. I bet alot more boats come to fish and stay and fish the ducks, alot of these boats probably will not have kids, but it is a NCGC tourny so what can you say. I bet the Frequent Flyer is glad he fished this tourny last year.

[O-SEA-D]

Someone brought up a great idea yesterday.

Why not have the boats who are registered in the NCGC fish by the rules we used in the Big Rock.

Have the rest of the boats who are fishing the tournament go by the Barta tournament rules.

The main focus should be that this tournament is for the kids....not for the points.

[fish4bills]

GLENN ....DO N OT CALL RANDY GREGORY....HE HAS BEEN ON THE WARPATH WITH PC AND THE BARTA CROWD ABOUT THE CIRLCE CRAP


FINAL RULING FROM THE TOURNY DIRECTOR TODAY TO ME: ....J HOOKS ALLOWED....CIRCLE ON A PITCH BAIT

Don't forget that if it was not for Randy being "on the warpath", we would be using circles for all bilfishing with bait right now!! It was his persistance that led to the suspension of the circle hook rule for ALL bait regardless of tackle class when billfishing for this year.

Out of all of the tournaments in NC, this one especially, should be using the Governor's Cup 80 lb / 200 lb. rule. Isn't one of Tred's messages to the kids about conservation? I bet Tred will be using circles. He did last year.

Don't get me wrong. I love my j-hooks and until this season, I have not used them since "experimenting" with them during the 2002 season in Isla Mujeres with poor results, but rigging styles and techniques have changed since then that have increased the success rate on sails and whites. My point is that like it or not...circle hooks are better for the fish and when used properly hook up ratios do not change and there are far less pulled hooks and fish jumped off. They will require them in the future and the best that we can hope for is NC Governors Cup suggestion of 80 lb. / 200 lb exemption. The Barta tourney should show acceptance of this rule as to give us a better chance of keeping it when they do enact a circle hook rule. We have to use naked baits in this tourney so the combo issue is not in play.

This tourney is for the kids. The kids of the Boys and Girls Club and the kids fishing the tourney. The kids should be taking advantage of the fabulous billfishing in Morehead and learning to use these circles to their advantage. They WILL be required to use them in the future so why not learn now?

I will have four junior anglers on the boat and they will be hooking their billfish with circles...It's only going to make them better.

[Glenn W]

Don't forget that if it was not for Randy being "on the warpath", we would be using circles for all bilfishing with bait right now!! It was his persistance that led to the suspension of the circle hook rule for ALL bait regardless of tackle class when billfishing for this year.

Out of all of the tournaments in NC, this one especially, should be using the Governor's Cup 80 lb / 200 lb. rule. Isn't one of Tred's messages to the kids about conservation? I bet Tred will be using circles. He did last year.

Don't get me wrong. I love my j-hooks and until this season, I have not used them since "experimenting" with them during the 2002 season in Isla Mujeres with poor results, but rigging styles and techniques have changed since then that have increased the success rate on sails and whites. My point is that like it or not...circle hooks are better for the fish and when used properly hook up ratios do not change and there are far less pulled hooks and fish jumped off. They will require them in the future and the best that we can hope for is NC Governors Cup suggestion of 80 lb. / 200 lb exemption. The Barta tourney should show acceptance of this rule as to give us a better chance of keeping it when they do enact a circle hook rule. We have to use naked baits in this tourney so the combo issue is not in play.

This tourney is for the kids. The kids of the Boys and Girls Club and the kids fishing the tourney. The kids should be taking advantage of the fabulous billfishing in Morehead and learning to use these circles to their advantage. They WILL be required to use them in the future so why not learn now?

I will have four junior anglers on the boat and they will be hooking their billfish with circles...It's only going to make them better.

Gimmie a break on the Governors Cup. No one is bashing Randy or the Governors Cup--- if they require a different standard for their points, that is fine.
Thank you for your opinion on what the rules should be for the Barta B&G Tournament, but many competing factors were indeed considered.
I would imagine several teams will be using circle hooks. In fact, the Run-Off won this Tournament in 2004 using all circle hooks. Best of luck to you and we'll see you on the docks in Beaufort.