Barracuda

GBPhil · 10-24-2009, 04:14 PM

Hi all

Looking for some advice here - this summer was my first time out trolling from my Whaler. I really am totally new to all this and so had a couple of lures off the back of the boat. I caught a few smaller Albacores then I lost a couple of Lures when I am guessing something like this had a bite:

So I re-rigged a lot of my lures using steel wire - but that just seems mad - as all the lures you (generally) buy when rigged have monofilament line but even something like this 25lb'er just bit straight through it

Is this a common occurance? Do most folks just rig with wire to start with ?

If re-rigging with wire is the answer - I was going to crimp the rigging - but I cannot find a simple guide that matches the wire to the size of the sleeve - does one exist?

Sorry this is probably a stoopid question to most of you - but is baffling me

Phil

N2theBlue · 10-24-2009, 07:01 PM

when riggin with single strand wire use a haywire twist....with cable (7x7) use crimps. With light multistrand cable use a figure 8 knot.

GBPhil · 10-25-2009, 11:48 AM

ok thanks - got it on the wire types and fixings

Anyone with tips about handling a fish with teeth like that also appreciated!

Phil

seapower · 10-25-2009, 02:44 PM

Very carefully!

Frank

blueoceaneyez · 10-25-2009, 03:00 PM

Haven't broken the 35lb mark with a Cuda yet, but trying, they fight awesome for sport!

We use wire (King rigs pretty much), tube lures, and/or a combo of short wire + a stretch of heavier mono for leaders. I don't know if you WANT to catch Cudas or if you just want to save your rigs....?

The ones we catch aren't overly "active" after they've been gaffed, out of the water and into the boat- use some long needle pliers to get the hook out and release if ya dont want to eat it.

PS- THEY STINK so if they bleed in your boat, you'll want to scrub asap!

GBPhil · 10-25-2009, 10:46 PM

Hi - no I didnt particularly want to catch it. It was around 25lbs and frightened the heck out of everyone on the boat - so I had no choice to get the hook out myself.

I actually didn't think he was that great a fighter to be honest - he did initially - then when he got near the boat for a few seconds. Amazing though - despite the gaf - he swam off which shocked us all on the boat

Thanks folks
Phil

clt_capt · 10-25-2009, 10:56 PM

We get a few toothy critters around here - Wahoos, King Mackerel and the all too frequent stinky (cuda).

When targeting Kings or Wahoo, I mainly use #9 piano wire (wahoo) and #5 wire for kings. But many times we'll catch them on mono rigs...

A good pair of fishing pliers and/or a dehooking tool are a good idea

You don't want to lip them like a bass...

GBPhil · 10-25-2009, 11:47 PM

This was in Antigua - I lost a couple of lures - and one was left in tatters until we actually landed that one

Phil

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10-24-2009, 07:01 PM	#2
N2theBlue Stop staring at my Avatar. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Seneca, SC Posts: 371 Credits: 1,064.7 Boat: N 2 the Blue, 21 Sea Fox Home Port: Ocean Isle, NC Best Catch: 320lb Bluefin Occupation: Construction Engineer/Manager	when riggin with single strand wire use a haywire twist....with cable (7x7) use crimps. With light multistrand cable use a figure 8 knot.

10-25-2009, 11:48 AM	#3
GBPhil I Need More Posts Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9 Credits: 125.7	ok thanks - got it on the wire types and fixings Anyone with tips about handling a fish with teeth like that also appreciated! Phil

10-25-2009, 02:44 PM	#4
seapower I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bath,NC Posts: 1,448 Credits: 4,821.7 Boat: 25' DownEaster Home Port: Bath, NC Best Catch: My wife Occupation: marine diesel service owner	Very carefully! Frank

10-25-2009, 03:00 PM	#5
blueoceaneyez Hide- My Wifes Logged On Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Destin, FL for the moment...I am from Monkey Junction, NC Posts: 156 Credits: 6,391.5 Boat: 26' SH Triton CC...20' Classic Mako CC...14' Canoe Home Port: Destin, FL + Wrightsville & Carolina Beaches, NC Best Catch: The one that keeps getting away... Occupation: Offshore WX + "Reel Finatical" FISHING	Haven't broken the 35lb mark with a Cuda yet, but trying, they fight awesome for sport! We use wire (King rigs pretty much), tube lures, and/or a combo of short wire + a stretch of heavier mono for leaders. I don't know if you WANT to catch Cudas or if you just want to save your rigs....? The ones we catch aren't overly "active" after they've been gaffed, out of the water and into the boat- use some long needle pliers to get the hook out and release if ya dont want to eat it. PS- THEY STINK so if they bleed in your boat, you'll want to scrub asap! Last edited by blueoceaneyez; 10-25-2009 at 03:02 PM.

10-25-2009, 10:46 PM	#6
GBPhil I Need More Posts Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9 Credits: 125.7	Hi - no I didnt particularly want to catch it. It was around 25lbs and frightened the heck out of everyone on the boat - so I had no choice to get the hook out myself. I actually didn't think he was that great a fighter to be honest - he did initially - then when he got near the boat for a few seconds. Amazing though - despite the gaf - he swam off which shocked us all on the boat Thanks folks Phil

10-25-2009, 10:56 PM	#7
clt_capt If Ignorance is bliss, Why aren't more people happy? Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Raleigh, MHC Posts: 5,946 Credits: 8,636.1 Boat: Luhrs 36 Home Port: MHC Occupation: Supporting my Tackle habit	We get a few toothy critters around here - Wahoos, King Mackerel and the all too frequent stinky (cuda). When targeting Kings or Wahoo, I mainly use #9 piano wire (wahoo) and #5 wire for kings. But many times we'll catch them on mono rigs... A good pair of fishing pliers and/or a dehooking tool are a good idea You don't want to lip them like a bass...

10-25-2009, 11:47 PM	#8
GBPhil I Need More Posts Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9 Credits: 125.7	This was in Antigua - I lost a couple of lures - and one was left in tatters until we actually landed that one Phil