$25,000 dollars to sell an amberjack???!!!

[Nauti Natured]

OK ... forgive me if I am a late-comer to this topic ... and feel free to shuttle me to a pre-existing rant session if I missed it but can this be for real????

Today I was informed that we have to buy a $25,000 dollar grouper / snapper permit to sell any bottom fish ???

If I am misunderstanding this or confused please ... do-tell... because I am really hoping that someone says that I have just misunderstood the information, but considering the source, I am fairly certain it is accurate.

This tree-hugging, save the endangered amberjack / Snapper / Black feathered zebra skinned mullet muscle SH^*T is OUT OF FREAKING CONTROL!!!!!!

[clt_capt]

It has been a few years since I've sold any bottom fish, but at the time, it was legal to retain and sell the equivalent of recreational limits - without requiring the Reef Complex (Snapper/Grouper) license... A NC SCFL is required...

But these days you just never know -

[PLAN 9]

I do not know about selling the AJ's but I think you have to purchase 2 snapper/grouper federal permits to be able to sell the groupers, one to use and one to retire. Since there is no open access you have to purchase from current permit holders, supply v. demand=high price. Same scenario as to aquire a NC Std Comml Fishing License.

With the new grouper regs you cannot sell unless you have federal permit. No more sale of rec. limits..........

[Surfacegrinder]

So you have to BUY a permit that is good for one year (12 months) and they close the season for 1/3 of that year. Does anybody see something wrong with this picture?

I got an idea; let us pay the idiots that make these rules kind of like that. Give them 2/3 of their pay and they still have to work the whole year. Wonder if they would think about how some poor guy spends all the time and money to milk out a small living and they just steal it away from him. No don't think they care or know what it takes or involves.

Once again I am sorry for the rant.

[Capt. Lyndon]

The no bag limit sale law went into effect back in the fall. The permits are on a 2-1 basis, and it costs, I believe $25.00 a year to renew your permit. The going price is $12,500 per permit, and you have to buy 2, and turn one in to SAFMC, unless you buy a corporate permit, on which the going price is around $24,000, but keep in mind that if the powers that be decide to implement an ifq, that you may lose your permit if the catch history on the permit is not high enough.

[WAHOONBOX]

THIS MAY BE A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO EXPRESS MY THOUGHTS HERE AND SAY A COUPLE WORDS CONCERNING THIS ARENA OF COMMERCIAL FISHING AND IT'S RELATION TO OTHER FISHING VENUES........NAUTI, I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND....THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU OR ANY PARTICULAR PERSON

IN NO WAY AM I DIRECTING MY WORDS TOWARD ANY INDIVIDUAL ONCE I EXPRESS THEM

I AM GOING TO RE-READ MY SCRIPT SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE I POST UP TO MAKE SURE I AM EXPRESSING TRUE THOUGHTS AND NOT JUST METALLICA ST.ANGER

RIGHT NOW I AM GOING TO GET ME ANOTHER DIET DR PEPPER ....

BACK LATER

[SeaBiscuit]

Looking forward to Box's diatribe
In the meantime, I believe that AJs fall in the reef complex species classification (as do sea bass, triggers, grunts etc) the sale of which is now permitted only to the holders of SAFMC grouper - snapper permits.
Those permits are priced as already stated and are permanent with minimal annual renewal fees.

If there is to be any bottom fishing in the future, limiting the sale of bottom fish to the few hundred SAFMC grouper snapper permit holders facilitates much easier record keeping for the bureaucrats which in turn temporarily satisfies the enviros who want very strict enforcement of quotas on the way to a limited entry quota fishery and, potentially, total protection of a public resource from..... the public

There is trouble brewin' indeed, but the selling of federally managed fish by recreationals is not the problem. As a matter of fact, I agree with it. Possessing a NC commercial license does not make one a commercial fisherman.

Cheers,
SeaBiscuit

[WAHOONBOX]

I AM TORN BETWEEN THIS THREAD AND THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW:http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/...-new-post.html

[SeaBiscuit]

Come on Marty, let it rip!
Biscuit

[WAHOONBOX]

SARAH PALIN JUST CALLED ME....





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