Old 02-26-2008, 12:29 PM   #1
Anthony's Ark is a blowboater
 
Kahi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 255
Credits: 1,283.9
Wire Line Outfit

Attached is the model I was looking at (but with monel).


Do you think this would be a nice addition to my trolling spread for wahoo (Main target), kings and grouper?

Could I run a planer off a wire line then add a Mono leader into a spoon or lure?

I was also thinking of running this with an inline sinker and a big yozuri bonita or diving (Mann 30+) lure.

Should I just wait and get an electric reel?

Thanks for the input guys. Kahi (Miami, FL)
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Capt.Harry Combo.jpg (19.5 KB, 93 views)
Kahi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2008, 09:08 PM   #2
I think Admin is going to let me have this space
 
Sea Draggin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: High Point, NC
Posts: 3,593
Credits: 3,073.9
Guy have used wire line rigs for a long time, but most have given them up, opting more for a straight braid set up. That being said, one of the charter boats stacked up the meat one day a few years ago and all the hoo's came on a wire line rig. I would not use it for planers, but for pulling a bait out long, I think the sinking wire line holds it down in the water, without taking any action out of the bait.
__________________
.
www.EasternTackle.com ..................
Sea Draggin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2008, 09:29 PM   #3
Fish the Edge
Team Sportfishermen.com
 
flatbottom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bear, DE
Posts: 8,028
Credits: 16,709.5
Boat: 232 center console
Home Port: Indian River, De
Best Catch: off the shot gun
Occupation: jackleg
Kahi my bro uses a set up like that in Florida. The water is not as deep where he trolls compared to northern states. Wire line, cigar weight, lure or strip bait on wire. It works for him. He fishes a touch north of you, running out of Stuart I believe.
__________________
New Rules To Live By
Don’t invade Russia in the winter, and don’t conduct a short raid on Goldman Sachs when the former CEO is the Treasury Secretary.
flatbottom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2008, 09:30 PM   #4
I think Admin is going to let me have this space
 
clt_capt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Raleigh, MHC
Posts: 3,170
Credits: 3,113.8
Boat: Luhrs 36
Home Port: MHC
Occupation: Supporting my Tackle habit
I used to run a wireline rig - I used sevenstrand instead of monel though.

We used the inline weight and a 30 ft section of mono with a snap swivel at the end.

It worked fairly well, but there are 3 major drawbacks to this rig in my opinion;
1) Corrosion on the reel spool - didn't matter how well you cleaned it, the spool is gonna get chewed up

2) The weight is downright dangerous swinging around.

3) Long handline to get the fish into gaff range - not to mention the weight swinging around.

O-Sea-D did post a bridle rig for the trolling lead that looks interesting, and if I were gonna pull a wireline again, I'd probably follow suit.

I've been running a Sniper setup for a while now (after trying downriggers, Z-Wings, Planers off of the downrigger, etc) - I'm hooked and we've not put it out and not caught fish - I'm sold.

Oh yeah - almost forgot about the monel - kink it and you break it. Sevenstrand is no picnic either - it will chew up your hands with little broken wires...

I will say that for fast trolling, it is the way to go - you can't run 10+ kts with a standard planer...

Last edited by clt_capt; 02-26-2008 at 09:34 PM.
clt_capt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2008, 09:33 PM   #5
I think Admin is going to let me have this space
 
Capt_John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Jacksonville,NC
Posts: 1,848
Credits: 2,164.5
Occupation: charter captain
I switched from monel to straight braid,but I know of a lot of captains that still pull wire lines. However, we have always used planers with ours on all the boats I've fished. We actually use both planers and trolling leads on wire lines with great results. This past Dec. I saw a wireline used with a planer/bridle wind on system and it caught most of our yellowfins that day out of Oregon Inlet. it was wire line all the way down to about a foot before the bridle. Then it was all mono. I got a couple of pics of it in action.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg oi 012.jpg (778.3 KB, 81 views)
File Type: jpg oi 010.jpg (888.2 KB, 80 views)
File Type: jpg oi 013.jpg (1.08 MB, 78 views)
File Type: jpg oi 011.jpg (1.04 MB, 81 views)
File Type: jpg oi 016.jpg (987.0 KB, 80 views)
__________________
Capt. John Mallette
captjohn86@yahoo.com
http://www.myspace.com/captjohn86

"ALCOHOL,TOBACCO,AND FIREARMS should be a convieniece store, not a government agency".

1(910) 934-2628
Capt_John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2008, 09:35 PM   #6
I think Admin is going to let me have this space
 
Capt_John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Jacksonville,NC
Posts: 1,848
Credits: 2,164.5
Occupation: charter captain
Ooooopss.....sorry about the pic size.
__________________
Capt. John Mallette
captjohn86@yahoo.com
http://www.myspace.com/captjohn86

"ALCOHOL,TOBACCO,AND FIREARMS should be a convieniece store, not a government agency".

1(910) 934-2628
Capt_John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2008, 09:42 PM   #7
I use a green machine
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: VA BCH
Posts: 214
Credits: 1,341.5
Occupation: Engineer
wire is not forgiving, one little mistake and all your sh_t is gone....go with braid and slightly longer stick......
Sublime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2008, 12:19 AM   #8
Anthony's Ark is a blowboater
 
Kahi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 255
Credits: 1,283.9
Thank You

Gents:

I can't thank you all enough for sharing your knowledge with me. I can honestly say that since I've joined this site, I've saved several thousand dollars on ill working set-ups (well, only to spend more on well working set-ups). So thank you guys.

Kahi
Miami, FL
Kahi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2008, 06:50 PM   #9
Sit down Shut up And fish
 
WahooKing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 492
Credits: 3,895.2
Occupation: Ace Fishing Lures
Kahi

Your wireline outfit above is highly deadly for HS Wahoo Trolling and Slow Grouper trolling...The Wahoo tournaments in the Bahamas allow a max of 2 wireline outfits in your spread.

Straight wire on the reel is one way to go...The other way is to pack your reel with braid type line then put a top shot of wire...Our wirelines are set at the short corners (100' and 150')...Our wire top shots are set at 110' and 160'...When set, the connection w/ braid and wire is at least one crank on the spool.
__________________
Anthony
Ace Fishing Lures
www.wahooking.com
WahooKing is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:19 PM.