Jerry Brown Spectra

[Streamweaver]

I have a Penn 70 2 speed that needs to be respooled ,looking at Jerry Brown's hollow core 130 with a Momoi Diamond top shot. Anybody got a good place to purchase the spectra from . Also what do you put on the reel first to back the spectra and type of splice from the spectra to the top shot.

Thanks for any advice

Howard

[OffTheHookB&T]

We carry Jerry Brown Line One. As for backing most of the time you tie the hollow core to the the arbor of the spool. ONe advantage of this is the spectra doesn't have to be replaced as often as mono. I would recommend a spliced loop in the end of the spectra and then a loop to loop connection to the top shot.

[ifish42na]

Howard,

Give me a call, I can help you with that. The 70 has a scored spool; with the right knot and proper linewinding, you do not need anything on the spool. I prefer a loop to loop connection for your topshot; check my website for details.

[FESS]

Without a doubt...call Basil...he da man....especially if he's willing to help...i'd love to here his 2 cents (=priceless) on this arbor and/or backing question, even though he's probably addressed it quite a few times here,...not fer sure though.
Would you recomend a dacron to spectra and then dacron to top shot? or dacron to spectra to top shot...or just spectra to top shot...have heard the spectra is too slippery for arbor attachments (??) help...advise or direct to another thread if that's easier, sorry for q's!!!
al

[ifish42na]

If your spool has scoring or a pin, you don't need any sort of tape or other gripping material. Take your line twice around the arbor and tie a double Heliger knot. The best way to connect to the arbor is to splice an end loop in the spectra and loop around your arbor, then over the bulk spool. If you have a pin on your spool it grabs tight and will not slip, period. The only spool I've ever seen that really needed a grip material was Alutecnos, with a deep-V design. The spool is slippery and the angle is extreme, here I would add gripping material. Always wind with even, consistent drag, use a linewinder with a mechanical brake for best results. If you're using a glove, never apply pressure to the line itself. No exaggerated criss-crossing is required. If you're looking for a home-made solution, get a 5/8" dowell and 2 tennis balls. Cut holes in the balls, slip over each side of the dowell and have someone apply pressure to the spool with the balls as you wind hundereds of yards onto your reel by hand.

[Sea Draggin]

Chinese handcuff pt 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqnCY-mbGM4

Pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oDlrw8XwMU

Also did a series of photo's in a thread here as well that you should be able to find with a quick search.

[Streamweaver]

Thanks for all the advice everyone, Basil I will give you a call today. Sea Draggin great video clip

[shoefish]

Sea Draggin nice video, and cool trick with stripping down the mono to a point- I'm usually trying to cut the mono with scissors to get the angle. I'll have to try that now. Thanks!

Streamweaver,
I'm not sure if you've pulled the trigger on the 130 yet, but you may want to consider the 200# hollow core (or is it 220#?)- you won't sacrifice that much line capacity on the 70, but you'll get a bit more abrasion resistance, and the larger line is easier to work with (splice, loop, etc). Just a thought

[Sea Draggin]

These are the threads with pics
Chinese Handcuff - How to with pics

Chinese Handcuff pt 2 - the loop

I would suggests ditching the diamond line and using Sufix Superior. cost less and much better line.

[ifish42na]

What sizes does Jerry Brown hollow spectra come in and what is the comporable mono size that they mimic

Line One hollow spectra comes in 60-80-100-130-200-300-500-800-1000lb test. Mono equivalents are 20-25-30-40-60-130-200-300-400lb

thinking of refilling next year with 75% braid with a top shot of mono...will be put on 50s... do you use uni to uni or Chinese finger?

Since this is hollow line, a whole range of knotless connections and splices can be made. No knots to fail. As your mono topshot wears out, just replace it with another, yet keep that hollow backing on your reel for years to come. I have some reels going into their 8th season. The most I ever had to do is re-splice my end loop, or strip off 20-30 yards and splice on a new section of hollow line. Splice that is, no knot. 100% line strength.

A common question is why can't I just insert the mono topshot right into my main line? After all, I only fish 80lb test. The answer is, yes you can do that but when it comes time to change that topshot, it will take you quite a bit of time to do it, and you won't be doing it on the boat. The second approach and the one I prefer is the use of a loop-to-loop connection. That is, splice a 100% end loop on the end of your reel's main line. This is not a bimini or some other knot, it is a way to invert the line into itself and then lock it, so the spliced end loop cannot pull out. Here is a link to an excellent 3 page thread on that topic.

OK, once you have that loop on your reel, you put a second piece of spectra on the back of your mono topshot, with another loop. You can pre-make these in the winter or buy them pre-made, and have them ready to go. Changing a topshot using a loop-to-loop connection is simple and takes just under a minute. You can easily do this on a boat if you have to, getting you right back into the game with a brand new full reel of line, with no knots to fail.

Still, some anglers go back and say, well that sounds like a lot of work too, and I’m still going to insert my mono right into the main line. That works, but like I said, you're not going to be changing that connection to easily if you have to. The rod will most likely be set into a rod holder until you get back to the dock. The other major advantage of L-2-L connections is the ability to connect hollow spectra backing to a mono topshot that you could not possibly insert into your main line. For example, a hot shark tournament setup developed by a very well-known NJ charter captain is using a 25-foot 530lb X-HARD wind-on leader connected to his reel's main spectra line via a L-2-L connection, crimped to his shark rig. No topshot at all. You would never be able to insert 530lb mono into your spectra, but with loop connections you have a wide range of options depending on what you're fishing for. After shark season, cut off the wind-on and loop on a topshot. Getting into a mad-dog bigeye bite and wish you had heavier line? Cut off that 80b topshot and loop on a 130lb'er in seconds. Snag a pot or tangle? Cut off the old, loop on a new. Taking your reels out west to do some long-range fishing with short heavy topshots? Same drill.

Line One has just come out with a 100lb hollow braid line that will test well under 130lb for strict IGFA rule fishing, and still allow you to splice your connections. Spectra should be wound on tight, using 6-8lb of even, consistent drag. Use a Heiliger super-knot, aka double sandiego knot, for arbor connections.

Tools required for working with this line and making your own splices are a good set of needles to insert mono, some #7 wire to make loop puller or line splicing needles, and some adhesives and serving tools. The point where the mono enters the spectra will have to be secured with what is known as a serve. Methods of serving monofilament to hollow spectra involve applying the traditional time-tested and still very good half hitches of waxed floss sealed with adhesive, or using an ultra thin spectra thread, applied under pressure, using a spinning bobbin. The result is a strong, low profile serve, designed to prevent the spectra from moving relative to the mono. The finger-trap will hold the mono inside the hollow line, but the serve is absolutely necessary to keep everything in place.

One final note: Since it's so easy to replace your topshot, do it often!! Don't try to use the same topshot all season long. If you get into fish, tangles, etc, swap it out! It's the best and least-expensive insurance against failures. We all spend a ton of money to get out to the Edge, make sure that your line and connections are in the best shape possible so when that wolf-pack hits, you're ready.