28' Phoenix Express - Page 3

cdail28590 · 09-28-2009, 11:11 AM

Snooked, what was wrong with it that made you decide against it? Does it just need a motor and some cosmetic work or is there some structural issues?

Avenger · 09-29-2009, 11:49 AM

Most people's problem with it seems to be the cost of transportation. Since all the lookers so far have been from out of state and need to pay somebody to transport it for them. It makes the total aquisition cost more than they would pay for a boat in this condition.

Remember, it's a 32 year-old boat. Even if it hasn't been abused it hasn't been kept in showroom condition either. Expect scratches, dings, and broken and missing parts like you'd expect to find on any older boat.

AFAIK the hull is solid. One member told me the owner advised him that the cockpit decking, which appears to be mostly hatches, has soft spots. So there's probably plywood coring that needs to be replaced. Next time I'm there I'll look into this further.

Please don't expect to make money on this (like you can do that with a boat

) It's not an investment. It's just an opportunity to pick up a decent boat for cheap, do some fixing-up and have a good fishing platform.

snooked · 10-01-2009, 08:42 AM

like avenger said it came down to tranporting.loved the boat ,nice lay out.structualy sound,just needs 1 motor some decks and a paint job.i was looking for a stepping stone not a keeper.a keeper would be 30'+ good luck to hopefully a new owner beautiful lines for an older boat

Avenger · 10-07-2009, 10:52 AM

I got to the yard yesterday and looked at the decking. There's a center hatch that is fine, but the decking around it is springy particularly along the transom. Otherwise the structure appears to be sound. This is a solid glass hull, not cored. So the hull shouldn't have any such issues.

Access for removing the engine is good, with no cabin or other structure in the way, it's a straight-up pick to get it out. I would consider pulling the heads in place to see if the short block actually needs to come out. Even if it does, having the heads off will make it easier.

If I had a place to keep it I would grab it myself, but there's a 36 ft convertible in my parking space. Somebody needs to save this thing.

Big Jay · 10-07-2009, 11:00 AM

Jesus for $500...man. Only issue is I don't have a yard and I think my father would have a conniption if i blocked her in his.

WHITEDOG · 10-07-2009, 06:55 PM

when was the last time this boat was in the water

Avenger · 10-08-2009, 04:02 PM

I'm told it was hauled out at the end of the season last year.

Questsportfishing · 10-13-2009, 11:34 PM

what is the deal with trailing it out? permits??? I am interested thanks for any info ...

Avenger · 10-14-2009, 04:06 PM

It was still there when I was at the yard this morning, but I didn't get a chance to talk to the owner. Check your PMs for contact information.

I'm not really sure about what would be involved in trailering it, but I'll try to gather some information for you. I know it's almost 10 ft wide, and the tower would probably have to come off to avoid collecting foliage, traffic lights and bridges. There are cranes in the yard, and a travelift right next door so getting the tower off and the boat on a trailer shouldn't be an issue.

seapower · 10-14-2009, 11:14 PM

With a little bit of time, elbow grease, etc, etc, etc. Strip her all the way down, re-wire, drop a couple of 210-250 hp Cummin's B's in her. Ride in style. May not be worth anything to someone else, but who care's. You'd know what you got, till you got tired or too old to fish anymore. You can't look at pleasure's in life as investment's, gotta have fun while you're here. None of us is leaving alive. Go For It!!!! Frank

10-13-2009, 11:34 PM	#28
Questsportfishing Crab mustard is good Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Posts: 982 Credits: 3,302.6 Boat: 28' Custom Bertram Home Port: Port Everglades Best Catch: the one that makes people smile! Occupation: Sport Fishing Captian	Is it still for sale? what is the deal with trailing it out? permits??? I am interested thanks for any info ...

10-14-2009, 11:14 PM	#30
seapower I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bath,NC Posts: 1,453 Credits: 4,833.5 Boat: 25' DownEaster Home Port: Bath, NC Best Catch: My wife Occupation: marine diesel service owner	Just Think, With a little bit of time, elbow grease, etc, etc, etc. Strip her all the way down, re-wire, drop a couple of 210-250 hp Cummin's B's in her. Ride in style. May not be worth anything to someone else, but who care's. You'd know what you got, till you got tired or too old to fish anymore. You can't look at pleasure's in life as investment's, gotta have fun while you're here. None of us is leaving alive. Go For It!!!! Frank

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09-29-2009, 11:49 AM	#22
Avenger Crab mustard is good Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 753 Credits: 2,415.7 Boat: 36' Hatteras Convertible Occupation: Pelagician	Most people's problem with it seems to be the cost of transportation. Since all the lookers so far have been from out of state and need to pay somebody to transport it for them. It makes the total aquisition cost more than they would pay for a boat in this condition. Remember, it's a 32 year-old boat. Even if it hasn't been abused it hasn't been kept in showroom condition either. Expect scratches, dings, and broken and missing parts like you'd expect to find on any older boat. AFAIK the hull is solid. One member told me the owner advised him that the cockpit decking, which appears to be mostly hatches, has soft spots. So there's probably plywood coring that needs to be replaced. Next time I'm there I'll look into this further. Please don't expect to make money on this (like you can do that with a boat ) It's not an investment. It's just an opportunity to pick up a decent boat for cheap, do some fixing-up and have a good fishing platform.

10-01-2009, 08:42 AM	#23
snooked I just got squirted with ballyhoo poop Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Barnegat inlet Posts: 40 Credits: 1,533.3 Boat: mako Occupation: fishing	like avenger said it came down to tranporting.loved the boat ,nice lay out.structualy sound,just needs 1 motor some decks and a paint job.i was looking for a stepping stone not a keeper.a keeper would be 30'+ good luck to hopefully a new owner beautiful lines for an older boat

10-07-2009, 11:00 AM	#25
Big Jay I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 1,581 Credits: 3,498.0 Boat: 30' Albemarle Best Catch: this weird rash Occupation: Financial Rep	Jesus for $500...man. Only issue is I don't have a yard and I think my father would have a conniption if i blocked her in his.

10-07-2009, 06:55 PM	#26
WHITEDOG #1 Croaker Hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 102 Credits: 1,522.1	when was the last time this boat was in the water

10-08-2009, 04:02 PM	#27
Avenger Crab mustard is good Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 753 Credits: 2,415.7 Boat: 36' Hatteras Convertible Occupation: Pelagician	I'm told it was hauled out at the end of the season last year.

10-14-2009, 04:06 PM	#29
Avenger Crab mustard is good Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 753 Credits: 2,415.7 Boat: 36' Hatteras Convertible Occupation: Pelagician	It was still there when I was at the yard this morning, but I didn't get a chance to talk to the owner. Check your PMs for contact information. I'm not really sure about what would be involved in trailering it, but I'll try to gather some information for you. I know it's almost 10 ft wide, and the tower would probably have to come off to avoid collecting foliage, traffic lights and bridges. There are cranes in the yard, and a travelift right next door so getting the tower off and the boat on a trailer shouldn't be an issue.