Hays vs Jobus

[LongRigger]

Whatsup guys I have a question,

Right now in Hawaii the most popular style rig for blues and stripeys is a single stiff rigged jobu hook. I was wondering since i have no expirience using Hays hooks for billfish, has anyone on here have, and what has been your expirience with them been like in terms of strength, hook up ratios and life expectancy. The jobus have been pretty good for us, the only concern i have had lately is the do tend to rust quickly once scratched.
We are fishing all resin hawaiian style trolling lures.

Any input would be appreciated!
-John

[WahooKing]

Whatsup guys I have a question,

Right now in Hawaii the most popular style rig for blues and stripeys is a single stiff rigged jobu hook. I was wondering since i have no expirience using Hays hooks for billfish, has anyone on here have, and what has been your expirience with them been like in terms of strength, hook up ratios and life expectancy. The jobus have been pretty good for us, the only concern i have had lately is the do tend to rust quickly once scratched.
We are fishing all resin hawaiian style trolling lures.

Any input would be appreciated!
-John

I fish with Hays hooks for the men in blue suits...They are Jobu style but in stainless...I give them a 10 across the board...Super strong, solid hook ups and mine are going on strong 4-5 yrs later with little to no oxidation.

They are so strong, I have to sharpen them with a diamond bit rotary tool...And they can be hard as hell to get out of a Marlins mouth.

Try em out...And hopefully, Roddy will chime in.

Anthony
Ace Fishing Lures

[Patudo]

Right now in Hawaii the most popular style rig for blues and stripeys is a single stiff rigged jobu hook. -John

That's really interesting John, what's the reason for the switch over from two hook rigs, and are you guys running your single jobu hooks up, or down? and is the single hook most popular in just the big island, or on the other islands as well? thanks,

[LongRigger]

That's really interesting John, what's the reason for the switch over from two hook rigs, and are you guys running your single jobu hooks up, or down? and is the single hook most popular in just the big island, or on the other islands as well? thanks,

Run with the hooks up, especially on straight runners. We switched over from double hooks for a variety of reasons. A single stiff rigged jobu is lighter, doesnt weigh down the lure as much and allows it to run a little better i think. Also if you run tag lines the hook up ratio on a jobu stiff rigged and spaced correctly on the lure is pretty good we found. Especially if your using hook locks. On the big island you see alot of singles, some guys still use doubles. Here on oahu it rreally depends on what your fishing for. Jobus arent so great for mahis and tunas, but if the marlin are around then thats the main idea. Granted i cant speak for everyone, people have different preferences.

[Seaker]

Back on the other coast (east) several years ago we did a bunch of destructive testing on many hooks..we found the Hays to be near indestructible at tension loads that were scary..way beyound anything you could encounter on a rod and reel...they can be sharpened scary sharp and stay that way...I loved them and we they perfom very well for us.

Best of luck
Captain Vin

[offshore]

We sharpen our hays hooks on a fine diamond grinding wheel and we also take the barb down a little. Once you sharpen them they stay sharp for a while but we check them after every use. Mark

[Capt Chip]

Hays Hooks are stronger, last way longer and hookup just as well as jobu and you don't have to worry about any special electrolosis proof rigging hassels with the hays. Hays are heavier so you have to adjust a bit, but well worth the peice of mind when you hook a big marlin, which you will fishing in Hawaii (not if but when). Hays hooks are tempered very hard and are difficult to sharpen /shape the point but once done they will last for years, more than worth the little extra effort. I use 280-320 grit wet /dry sandpaper glued to a wooden tounge depressor for fine tuning the point when needed. A stone or daimond hone will work too.


Most slant face lures, especially the hard cut or more aggressive ones, will run straighter and more true with the single hook pegged facing point down. Symetrical shapes like bullets, hard heads, wide range soft heads etc... will tend to want to run with the hook point up so that's how I peg them, some here peg everything down though so on those lures I guess it's horses for courses, I just like my blue or purple back runing right side up. I roll my bullets on a level table and find the top/bottom and mark them so I know the top from bottom and skirt accordingly.

Chip

[looney tune]

With the finish on the jobus, do y'all not sharpen out of the box? In addition, with the small spaces created with the "t" point, is a finer tool needed on the sharpening?

Sorry if the question is amateur, but that is what I am.

thanks in advance.

[Morning Wood Sportfishing]

I hate Jobus with a burning passion. You will not find one near any boat I run. I just don't like the tips for some reason. I like the Hays hooks, they seem to penetrate super easy. Although, they're a bit hard to find here in Orange Beach. My favorite still remains the Mustad 7691 for trolling lures.

[Capt Josh]

Ditto on the Hays hooks and all that's already been mentioned about them!!! We switched over to Roddy's hooks 3 or 4 years ago on all our trolling lures and haven't looked back since.