Trim Tabs - Electric vs. Hydraulic ? - Page 4

Nauti Natured · 04-01-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckyLady

Are there any signs of zincs left on the tabs? There should be 3 of them on each tab at all times. When they go then the next closest metal goes next.

Not a one. I dont even see where they are supposed to go. No wire or anything. Ill send you some pics when this freaking rain lets up

LuckyLady · 04-01-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nauti Natured

Not a one. I dont even see where they are supposed to go. No wire or anything. Ill send you some pics when this freaking rain lets up

I hear you on the rain thing, I am soaked for the 2nd time today

Nauti Natured · 04-01-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Finesse

Nauti .... I didn't see you mention if you can hear the motor/pump running ??

Does that work ?

One of them did ... one of the didnt. So ... I got a new switch and cleaned all the terminals but have not put it all back together yet.

Finesse · 04-01-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nauti Natured

One of them did ... one of the didnt. So ... I got a new switch and cleaned all the terminals but have not put it all back together yet.

I can understand your frustration and wanting to go with a new setup, with needing new cylinders and a pump thats not yet working....

I had trouble with a similar hydraulic setup (not with K planes) After poking around with a voltmeter it seems the motor that drove the hydraulic pump was bad. A year after the motor was replaced it stopped working in one direction ... bad solenoid. Both easy to replace. Worst part was the stupid pump location

Nauti Natured · 04-03-2008, 11:26 AM

OK ... bit the bullet and ordered the new hydraulic cylinders. There are still a few parts I need to figure out how to get my hands on. I had to cut off the upper pins on both cylinders to get the old ones out so I need those pins. I looked at ordering them from the Mercury dealer and it was $50 BUCKS EACH!!!!

$50 bucks for a F#%&*#G bolt!!!! I think I will just search for a stainless bolt at a hardware store.

The second thing I need to find is the llittle metal bracket that seems to just hold a cable. Might be for the Gaffrig indicator. The metal brackett that was there is rusted and broken at the bend. For identification purposes ... it is attached to a little plastic block that is screwed to the back of the boat. Anybody have an idea of where to find that little metal piece?

The third thing I need is a new Gaffrig indicator. I think I should be able to get this through my Contender dealer in NC since I think it is still what they use on the new boats.

Any thoughts or help is much appreciated!!!

Nauti Natured · 04-05-2008, 07:29 PM

I tested both solenoids and motors today and it all seems a-ok. Solenoids clicking and motors running. So now I just have to wire up my new switch which I relocated to the console next to the throttle. If I get it wired correctly (up, down, power shouldnt be that difficult) and get the tail end of the system working ... I should be good as new.

I still need to find that little metal bracket which holds the indictor cable and I also still need to find a Gaffrig indicator.

So ... once the tabs are operating the way they should, its on to the electronics

Thanks again for all your help. If you have any idea about my final missing parts please let me know.

Nauti Natured · 04-21-2008, 04:57 PM

Hate to bring this back up but I really need some help trouble shooting. So far I have replaced the switch, the hydraulic cylinders and all of the solenoids. I put in all new electrical terminals and cleaned everything up. The port tab seems to be working fine. Unfortunately, I am still having issues with the starboard side.

Here's the deal: I know the solenoids are good because I just replaced them. I know the pump is good because it runs strong when you jump the power directly to one of the pumps up or down wires. The problem is when I put it all together the solenods just click but do not run the motor. I dont get it? I have run out of things to replace on the power distribution side and I know the motor runs! For some reason the power is not making it to the up and down terminals. It would seem like it is a solenoid problem but they are brand new and clicking.

Any advice is much appreciated.

LuckyLady · 06-03-2008, 12:39 PM

I just wanted to add these couple of links with part #'s and diagrams so I know where they are at and other people can use them if need be. It was a pain in the rear to find them

http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/2443/310.cfm

http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/2443/290.cfm

04-03-2008, 11:26 AM	#35
Nauti Natured I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chapel Hill / Atlantic Beach, NC Posts: 1,287 Credits: 2,306.6 Boat: Contender 31 Open, Yamaha 225 4 strokes Home Port: Atlantic Beach, NC	OK ... bit the bullet and ordered the new hydraulic cylinders. There are still a few parts I need to figure out how to get my hands on. I had to cut off the upper pins on both cylinders to get the old ones out so I need those pins. I looked at ordering them from the Mercury dealer and it was $50 BUCKS EACH!!!! $50 bucks for a F#%&*#G bolt!!!! I think I will just search for a stainless bolt at a hardware store. The second thing I need to find is the llittle metal bracket that seems to just hold a cable. Might be for the Gaffrig indicator. The metal brackett that was there is rusted and broken at the bend. For identification purposes ... it is attached to a little plastic block that is screwed to the back of the boat. Anybody have an idea of where to find that little metal piece? The third thing I need is a new Gaffrig indicator. I think I should be able to get this through my Contender dealer in NC since I think it is still what they use on the new boats. Any thoughts or help is much appreciated!!! __________________ Video of my boat - (Not my company, just my boat ) http://www.vineyardvines.com/index.c.../content.press

04-05-2008, 07:29 PM	#36
Nauti Natured I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chapel Hill / Atlantic Beach, NC Posts: 1,287 Credits: 2,306.6 Boat: Contender 31 Open, Yamaha 225 4 strokes Home Port: Atlantic Beach, NC	I tested both solenoids and motors today and it all seems a-ok. Solenoids clicking and motors running. So now I just have to wire up my new switch which I relocated to the console next to the throttle. If I get it wired correctly (up, down, power shouldnt be that difficult) and get the tail end of the system working ... I should be good as new. I still need to find that little metal bracket which holds the indictor cable and I also still need to find a Gaffrig indicator. So ... once the tabs are operating the way they should, its on to the electronics Thanks again for all your help. If you have any idea about my final missing parts please let me know. __________________ Video of my boat - (Not my company, just my boat ) http://www.vineyardvines.com/index.c.../content.press

04-21-2008, 04:57 PM	#37
Nauti Natured I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chapel Hill / Atlantic Beach, NC Posts: 1,287 Credits: 2,306.6 Boat: Contender 31 Open, Yamaha 225 4 strokes Home Port: Atlantic Beach, NC	Hate to bring this back up but I really need some help trouble shooting. So far I have replaced the switch, the hydraulic cylinders and all of the solenoids. I put in all new electrical terminals and cleaned everything up. The port tab seems to be working fine. Unfortunately, I am still having issues with the starboard side. Here's the deal: I know the solenoids are good because I just replaced them. I know the pump is good because it runs strong when you jump the power directly to one of the pumps up or down wires. The problem is when I put it all together the solenods just click but do not run the motor. I dont get it? I have run out of things to replace on the power distribution side and I know the motor runs! For some reason the power is not making it to the up and down terminals. It would seem like it is a solenoid problem but they are brand new and clicking. Any advice is much appreciated. __________________ Video of my boat - (Not my company, just my boat ) http://www.vineyardvines.com/index.c.../content.press

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06-03-2008, 12:39 PM	#38
LuckyLady "Life is what you make it!" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manahawkin, NJ Posts: 3,677 Credits: 13,063.0 Boat: CONTENDER 36 CUDDY 23 OPEN 36 FISHAROUND Home Port: EAST COAST Best Catch: There is always something better!	I just wanted to add these couple of links with part #'s and diagrams so I know where they are at and other people can use them if need be. It was a pain in the rear to find them http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/2443/310.cfm http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/2443/290.cfm