Old 06-02-2008, 06:46 PM   #1
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Swivel rod holders???

I am thinking about adding a pair of swivel rod holders for use with a planer rod and possibly some larger gear in the future.

What can the knowledge base here tell me about type and placement for my Parker??

So far I am leaning towords zero degree probably in the corners but I have never used them before. The boat has twins on a bracket which may affect placement. Any help would be appreciated.

Here is a shot I had on file of the pit. I was thinking just aft of the hawse pipe or between the two side holders. What is the advantage of the 15 degree holders? I figured with a bent butt rod you could fight out of it if need be, I would guess an angled holder would make that harder??? Like I said no experience with them yet, enlighten me.


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Old 06-02-2008, 10:40 PM   #2
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I use zero degree for bunt butts. I put them just foward of the back rod holder, they work great for deep dropping.
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I've fished 0, 15, & 30 degree rod holders from a planer rod, and by far, the 15 degree is the best for me. As far as placement goes, you don't want the holders too far aft if you are going to use a bridle system ( ya gotta be able to reach the clips on the planer). given the length of a typical Carolina planer rod on a bent butt, it would seem your current aft holders on the gunnels are in about the right spot--- can't tell without a rod for comparison. Given your traditional transom, you won't have to worry too much about the lines clearing your engines unless you go way forward. The best thing to do is take the boat out and play with it before you drill a hole. It looks like the aft side holders are 15 degree, so why not give it a try from there and see what you got?
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:36 PM   #4
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As far as placement goes, you don't want the holders too far aft if you are going to use a bridle system ( ya gotta be able to reach the clips on the planer).
Good point!!! I would have overlooked that. Any other words of wisdom? Always learning.
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All of my rod holders on the Cabo are swivel based. They are Rupp Rod Holders. The nice thing about them is that you can lock them if you don't want them to swivel. The best of both worlds in one rod holder.
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I agree with Glenn. Current location on farthest back holder could be replace with a swivel on one side. Just need to figure out do you like to wind the reel on the outside or the inside of the boat.

I like the 15 degree myself. It keeps the rod tip low enough so you do not have to strain to manipulate the leader, bridle, etc as it comes out of the roller tip. Vertical could be tough in a rough sea to reach out and grab the bridle to clip in and out especially if you have shorter reach and it is rough. You can fight in-gunwhale just fine with a 15 degree.

I would recommend getting the deepest holder you could afford to go with. 10" CE smith or Lee's deeper 12" model. Don't forget the fender washers or backing plate either when mounting. If you need to make it a standard holder you can tighten the nut down from underneath.

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Old 06-03-2008, 05:32 PM   #7
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My vote is a 15 deg holder in the spot where your current rod holder is just fwd of the hawse. I like the port side, but either will work. That's just preference.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:30 PM   #8
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0 degree if you are using bent butts. With large fish you better mount them in the strongest place possible if you plan on fighting the fish out of the holder, you will be putting tremendous strain on the gunnels. A good solid backing plate is ideal, otherwise you could wreck your boat, lose some gear and risk possible injury. After the install simulate a fight with the rod in the holder with someone or somthing pulling on the other end of the line at max drag to check the installation.

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Having not used a planer rod yet, how does it track?? I saw Box's video on how to deploy and trip, but what keeps it off the side of the boat? From what I gather the rod is kind of fit to the boat. Now I have a full bracket with platform, should the line enter behind that or off to the side??

Any guys running planers on outboards care to share tips or pics?
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http://videos.sportfishermen.com/act...5/planer_trip/

This video will give you an idea of how the planer will track. 9 out of 10 usually right in line with the rod. Sometimes the planer will be kicked to one side or the other just a bit and may need tuning like a crankbait or worst case buy a new planer.

For an outboard boat, rod holder placement to the stern or the bow on the gunwhale is determined by where the the rod will swivel at the tip as well as in the holder when the boat turns. You want to make sure the braid coming off the rod will clear the motors in a turn. It will be running in the water at a 45-60 dgree angle when set. Also, keep in mind for placment where it will need to be when leadering a fish and being able to swing the rod by the angler toward the gaff/leaderman to be able to clear everything.
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