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Old 12-30-2008, 08:07 PM   #11
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OK, so sounds like the SKA tourneys are pretty much "run and gun" where you need to be able to fish many different spots and having the speed simply gives the team more flexibility. Is that right?
Yes, speed gives you more flexibility. With the ability of having a faster cruise speed you are able to make changes in your game plan if conditions warrant change and possibly hitting the next spot at just the right time when the bite is on, then make it to weigh in on time. For all other times other than fishing tourneys I just adjust my fishing times to give me the maximum chances to catch whatever species I am going for.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:36 PM   #12
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:33 PM   #13
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Middle Finger slow boat my A$$!!!!!!!!

I guess you forgot you left before us and we still got to our spot first. That is even with Donna driving our boat with me sitting on the gunnel talking to my friends. At least we own our boat and do not have to beg permission to use MOMMY'S boat. I guess I should add $h*t for brains to your list of attributes as well, since you really can't contribute anything but bull. We also don't need to cheat to win. I guess it's time to use the ignore function of this site.



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Old 01-03-2009, 07:23 PM   #14
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I have a slow boat and can not fish worth a sh#t But i have fun and enjoy seeing everyone.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:22 PM   #15
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I have a slow boat and can not fish worth a sh#t But i have fun and enjoy seeing everyone.
Dave,
Happy New Year

I know you can fish. Haven't seen you in a while. Hope everything is going good for you and your family. I'm looking forward to this years fishing season. Donna and I should have are captain's license by the end of the year, preparing for retirement in 2010. I wouldn't rule out another new Cape Horn as well, this time a very stretched out one and lots faster and of course it's going to be bought from the fine gentlemen at Cardinal yachts.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:57 PM   #16
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Why not do a survey and see which boats finished in the $$for a season overall?

1.How many engines did they have
2. how many engines where actually running at weight in
3.What is the estimated or claimed top speed of the boat
3a.Which boats needed engine repairs between fishing days
4.Manufacturer of engines
5.Manufacturer of the boat
6.Is the boat privately owned or corporate

This would be for a complete SKA season including the championship series (or should I call that the fish-offs).Don't forget to include the 23' and under class as a second survey.I think this series is more like the NASCAR of sportfishing now so why not give/have a manufacturer's engine championship?
Maybe they already do.Happy New Year !

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Old 01-04-2009, 10:24 AM   #17
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I have a slow boat and can not fish worth a sh#t But i have fun and enjoy seeing everyone.
I'm with you Dave and Jenn, it is a lot of fun,win or lose, I obviously hit a nerve with buckethead. It's too bad about sore losers who don't have good sportsmanship and feel the need for namecalling, harassment of our sponsors, false accusations of cheating, slander and libel. Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with this other than to ignore it like we have been
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Old 01-04-2009, 10:40 AM   #18
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I'm with you Dave and Jenn, it is a lot of fun,win or lose, I obviously hit a nerve with buckethead. It's too bad about sore losers who don't have good sportsmanship and feel the need for namecalling, harassment of our sponsors, false accusations of cheating, slander and libel. Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with this other than to ignore it like we have been
Here is some advice get a lawyer and see who will win. The Truth Shall Prevail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-04-2009, 11:20 AM   #19
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This thread has gotten me thinking about the perception of the SKA among other anglers. The basis of this string was a question regarding how speed affects the outcome of SKA events. While I respect everyone's posts and opinions, I rely upon data/facts to make decisions. As such lets look at some data regarding the affects of speed upon teams fishing any tournament:

Situation: SKA event with teams with boats that can run WOT 70mph, 60mph, 50 mph and 40mph. Flat calm sea conditions so teams are not restricted by weather (although this rarely happens). All teams check out and run 60 miles to the fish. They each make 3 moves during the day each move is 20 miles and at the end of the day they each need to run 60miles back to the scales. All teams ran a total of 180 miles in a one day run (this is at the outside of reasonability based upon real life weather and actual distances needed to be run).


MILES
60 20 20 20 60 180
Minutes
MPH70 51 17 17 17 51 154
MPH60 60 20 20 20 60 180
MPH50 72 24 24 24 72 216
MPH40 90 30 30 30 90 270

Summary of data:

Team 70 MPH was first on the spot by 9 minutes ahead of Team 60 MPH, 21 minutes ahead of Team 50 mph and 29 minutes ahead of the Team 40 mph. The moves during the day show little advantage between the teams -- with the largest advantage being 13 minutes between Team 70 MPH and Team 40 MPH. The run back has the same advantage as the check out run. In total Team 70 MPH gained 34 minutes over Team 60 MPH and 62 minutes over Team 50 MPH.

The real life implications of this hypothetical data, in a real time SKA event, with actual sea and weather conditions are even less striking. Lets assume the distances were cut in half - so would the benefits to Team 70 MPH so their advantage over Teams 60 and 50 become less and can be overcome by any one of the team's fishing ability (ie catching bait, setting lines, pulling in lines, etc) and even Team 40 MPH's disadvantage of 116 minutes becomes a manageable 58 minutes. So in the end....the data reflects that speed is a factor but by no means is it determinative of the outcome. Listed below is the 2008 top 10 finishers on the SKA Professional Kingfish Tour by boat and motor type; 3 Contenders, 2 Fountains, 2 Yellowfins, 1 Wellcraft, 1 SeaCraft and 1 Donzi with 5 Mercury, 3 Yamaha and 2 Evinrudes. A good mix of boats and motors...the data again reflects fishing ability outweighs speed as represented by boat or motors.



2008 SKA PRO Tour Final Standings
boat size motors points

CONTENDER 27 YAMAHA 256.17
FOUNTAIN 38 MERCURY 254.64
YELLOWFIN 36 MERCURY 247.3
WELLCRAFT 35 EVINRUDE 244.72
CONTENDER 33 YAMAHA 243.62
DONZI 32 MERCURY 242.42
FOUNTAIN 38 MERCURY 242.21
SEA CRAFT 32 MERCURY 240.53
YELLOWFIN 34 EVINRUDE 235.56
CONTENDER 31 YAMAHA 234.01

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Old 01-04-2009, 11:47 AM   #20
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Thanks for taking the time to post the example. I do not currently fish any SKA events and I agree with you on the speed alone doesn't make for a winning team. I believe experience and knowledge as well as having all the skills necessary greatly helps offset any differences in speed. I still wouldn't want to be the 40 mph team.

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