shamrock hull problem...real bad !!

[jawz12]

Originally Posted by Run&Gun

I wasn't putting down his work or his knowledge. I was just pointing out that yelling and screaming and calling people names because they didn't call back in the time you thought was enough, somethimes isn't the way to do things. I have heard nothing but good things about Jimmy's work. But, I can tell you from experience with people and how they think and react. Yelling at someone, and demeaning them in front of others, usually gets the opposite response of what you are looking for. I know Jim, you can call me names, want to beat me up and call me a menace to society. But this is just my opinion. I didn't call you and yell at you and call you a fu(&ing A$$#o!e when you didn't call me back. If I did, would you have done the work or told me to go F myself? Probably the F myself part. So before you go off the handle next time, sit back count to 10 and think will my actions get what I am looking for, or will they make me look like a immature hot head.

And to the person insuating that I can't work on my own boat,Try again. I called to have stuff done that I had no time for, since I work 3 jobs.

ya know there bob,you got this wrong...seems like you get alot wrong...
i lost my cool after i had enoguh of bo giving me the run around...it was quite obvious he was giving me "lip service",he had no intentions of ever offering assistance,he was betting i would never call back-one thing i know is people,i can spot a phony a mile away,and let me tell ya,this guy is it...i've had quite a few others come forward and email me as well as call me,guys who won't post thier problems with their boats-pretty funny huh ??? i've said it before,and i'll say it again,previous to this boat,i've never done a structual repair on a shamrock hull-ever,i've never seen a problem...that's the truth !!
i was incredibly respectful and polite to both bo palmer and his employees,i allowed bo palmer to "talk me down",by that i mean,he's got more of a condesending attitude than me,i took it...after his failure to get back to me as he promised,i gave him a call again,he changed his story,made excuses and told me i missunderstood,it was obvious,this guy was gonna do nothing but "ear fu@k me",i had enough and i explained that to him,he's a very unreasonable man,he wants to dominate a conversation and he consistantly interupted me,i had enough,and i told him exactly what i thought...other's think,i've got the balls to say it !!! if he didn't like it,too bad,that's buisness...
no where was i unreasonable !! i attempted to work this out...i didn't want to bring this public,and i didn't bring this public to get something for the customer,it's clear,this bo palmer,will do nothing...i posted this publicly to show how this guy handles a customer's problem-not very well huh ???

i would have had no problem,if bo palmer stated he would do nothing-i actually would've respected his decision,he,however,chose to give a run around and make excuses-he took the weasel way of doing things,shows what kind of man he is,it shows what he's made of,not much,not much at all...

now,bob,did you ever think,that mabey i forgot about your boat,'cause ya know,i sit around all day hoping the phone would ring and bring me a job in so i can feed my dog ,'cause i got nothing to do...if this is why you feel the need to constantly go after me,then i apologize for not returning your phone call-is that good enough ?? would you like me to give some blood ??? wanna borrow a kidney ?? i get emails from people telling me you're insulting me on another board,if you've got a problem,then by all means let's hear what your problem is...i'll grab a dozen of donuts and you can swing by the shop,we'll discuss what the problem is,who knows,mabey,just mabey,you'll want to hang out with me after you meet me face to face-ya never know,right ??? i'm a reasonable guy,i'm not a know it all,i got alot of experience and i speak what's on my mind,does that make me a bad guy ??just like i stated,"other's think it,i got the balls to say it"...

back to the thread here...

started repairing this rig today...it's gonna be dirty,and dusty but i think mabey,just mabey,i'll manage to get it back together... and i just might do a better job than the factory did...

[Run&Gun]

No Jimmy, I would never insult you. Nor have I. I have used sarcasm in your direction when you jump down someones throat or demean them for having an opinion. But never have I said anything in regards to the work you do or the services you provide. I am sure you don't sit around and wait for a phone call for work. But, I would think when you run a business. Part of that business is to keep a good relationship with your customers. I really don't care that you didn't call me back. Like I said earlier, I will not beg someone to do work for me, that is why I didn't call back. The next guy in line responded to my calls and showed up when he said he would and did a fine job, so I'm happy. I just find it ironic that you get in a hissy because someone didn't call you back. I am sure if you called my place of employment and we said we would call you back, and we didn't you might get agitated. As well as you should, because that's how business is supposed to work. You tell someone something and you honor it. Now as to me talking behind your back on "the bassbarn", because that is where you have to be referring. Since I only participate in this Forum and that one. I believe you are mistaken. Show me where I have insulted you. I never met you personally, nor had work done by you. So I would have no reason to discredit your work, as I have not had the honor to see any. But, like I said before, the people I have talked to are very happy with the services you provided. That is why I attempted to have you do the work in the first place. I was told by others, when I said I was going to call you, that you were not reliable. But I figured if you took the job I would be happy with the results. If you didn't, oh well there are others. Now as to insulting you. If some sarcasm hurts, I am sorry Jimmy that you can dish it, but not take it. I'm not gonna cry or threaten to beat you up or call you names because you attempted a shot with the donut comment. It doesn't bother me.

Now, on another note. There seems to be this guy on the Bassbarn that jumps my shit every chance he gets. He goes by the name MCHammer. Now my feeling is that it is you sneaking in from time to time since they banned you. I don't think they should have banned you. I don't know the whole story behind it. But it seems like a personal vendetta by certain individuals there. But anyway, this guy MCHammer seems to have aproblem with me. It seems whenever he posts, it is directed at me. Now he claims to be a good friend of yours. Hell he even volunteered to fight for him. He also uses a lot of your vocabulary. Now I don't care if you sneak on Jim, honestly I wish they didn't ban you. But if this guy is you, there is no need to hide behind another scren name for the purpose to call me names or threaten to fight me. If it isn't you, I apologize for assuming it was. Also, if it isn't tell your friends to stop, or call me. I gave MCHammer my phone number a few times but he wouldn't call.


I hope this guy gets his Shammy worked out. I have seen pics of the work you have done and I am sure your work will be top notch. But my opinion is still that yelling and screaming, in most cases causes the opposite result as to which you were hoping. But I hope it works out for you. I don't know this guy Bo, but I hope he honors the Shamrock Name and satisfies his customer

[Run&Gun]

Originally Posted by Questsportfishing

I am way to tired of American men not standing up to any responsible act (as in you picking up a phone again in this case...) did you even ever call the man back???

So let me get this right?? It is my responsibilty to call someone when they tell me they are gonna call me? Why let the words "I'll call you" come out of your mouth then. You should end every call with "you call me". Why do businesses have answering machines, answering services, or email? So they know who called but they don't have to call them back. You make no sense. If you are in business, and people calling to give you business is what puts food on your table, then I believe it is your responsibilty to call the customer back, especially when you say you will. You say you are tired of the American man not standing up to responsibility, I am tired of business people thinking that we are at there mercy. Because as this thread is showing, if you don't like the boat company you can buy from another. So let's see where the good customer relations of not calling back gets Shamrock. I'm sure they lost at least one customer. The way I handle it is this. I call you, tell you the work I need. If you tell me you are going to call me and don't. Then my next call goes to the next guy that can do the work I want done. I don't play these games of not showing up, or returning calls. There are too many other people out there looking for work

[Questsportfishing]

think the day wouldn't be worth the box of chum...

[rugman]

just a technical question im not a fiberglass guy but should these structure issues be done on a trailer or would it be better done in a sling for level support.i did bulkhead work on my boat being heel blocked when i cut away the delaminated bulkhead support i seen movement in the hull. just a question here not a statement

[Run&Gun]

Originally Posted by Questsportfishing

think the day wouldn't be worth the box of chum...

Why do you say that? Just curious

[bvette]

Originally Posted by Run&Gun

Why do you say that? Just curious

The guy getting hurt here is the customer. The more you talk about it the harder it is going to be for him to get rid of the boat. I don't care if you rebuid like a tank no one will want it. Someone needs to just fix and move on.

[GALAZIO]

BINGO... and personally, I WOULD BE REAL PISSED at a mechanic that decided to take my PRIVATE ASSET public with issues and most difinately adversely affect the marketablitity of it if I was hoping to sell it in the future.

[bvette]

Originally Posted by Run&Gun

Why do you say that? Just curious

The guy getting hurt here is the customer. The more you talk about it the harder it is going to be for him to get rid of the boat. I don't care if you rebuid like a tank no one will want it. Someone needs to just fix and move on.

[Run&Gun]

Just to clarify things. Jimmy wasn't the guy attacking me on the other board. Just some guy claiming to be a representative of his. So I apologize to Jimmy for assuming that. Wanted to clear that up so Jimmy didn't get a bad reputation.