Opinions on Deadrise?

[fish4fun]

I am looking for a 24' to 25' center console for bay and limited ocean fishing here in Maryland. I'm not looking for all of the bells and whistles - just something that is built like a tank and would make an excellent fishing platform. Will most likely run a single outboard.

My question is what is the min. degree of deadrise I should consider?

I really like the new 24' privateer wahoo, but its deadrise is only 13 degrees. I like the 24' cape horn, which I believe has 22 degrees, but wow there is huge jump in price. I wonder which commercial style center -privateer, c-hawk, may craft - offers the most deadrise and best ocean ride?

If it gets snotty on the way home and I ahve a 30 mile run, I just concerned 13 degrees won't provide enough cut in the ocean?

Any suggestions, opinions?

[mad mike]

20+ degree ballpark with a sharp entry with flare to stay dry in my opinion for a ob,or go variable deadrise cant beat a seacraft, but I own a shamock ib with a keel thats my tank

[plyand glass]

hey fish4fun,
most of the so-called " commercial style" hulls available were pretty much designed for bay and inshore use in the fisheries that need stability and load carrying capability with low draft, ie: ; crabbing or net handling. not to say you cant use them offshore ,you just have to pick your day and keep an eye on the weather. In my experience as a designer and builder in past years ,look for a hull with at least 12-15 degrees at the transom, any flatter with a single will have a tendacy to pound and be wet,on the other hand to much deadrise ,24-26 degrees, it will take more power to push it and it will be "tippy" on the drift. not a lot out there production boat wise without all the "bells and whistles" ,you may have to go semi custom or bare hull.
Talk to brokensheer on here as he builds a nice looking 23 and i think he has one a little larger started , he's here in Md.
Look at some of the other carolina guys also, Foster in Hatteras village builds a 26-27 , don't know if he'll build a bare hull though. also OBX boats . also try Judge Yachts in Denton or Composite Yachts in Trappe, they may have a "bare hull" to complete. good luck and tight lines!

[fish4fun]

Thanks for the info, I will check out those builders.

For some reason, I keep coming back to the Privateers.

I know you can't buy a boat that can do everything, so I probably should be less concerned about the deadrise. I will have to test ride a few builders to see what will work for me. As you mentioned, the majority of the boats I have been looking at have the 12 - 15 degree deadrise - for commercial work I guess...

I will use my boat for everything - running a trotline for crabs, spring & fall rock fishing in the Chesapeake to a few wreck fishing and tuna trips out of OC (very selective good weather days). Hell, I may even use it for a few sea ducks hunts during the winter!

[Agitated88]

hey fish4fun,
most of the so-called " commercial style" hulls available were pretty much designed for bay and inshore use in the fisheries that need stability and load carrying capability with low draft, ie: ; crabbing or net handling. not to say you cant use them offshore ,you just have to pick your day and keep an eye on the weather. not a lot out there production boat wise without all the "bells and whistles" ,you may have to go semi custom or bare hull.
Talk to brokensheer on here as he builds a nice looking 23 and i think he has one a little larger started , he's here in Md.

I agree with Ply about Bo's '23 glassmonkey it's a sweet design. No doubt it'll handle all your needs on the Bay, and given the right conditions, could handle a few off shore trips. Best of luck, keep us posted with your final decision.

[captnemo]

Thanks for the info, I will check out those builders.

For some reason, I keep coming back to the Privateers.

I know you can't buy a boat that can do everything, so I probably should be less concerned about the deadrise. I will have to test ride a few builders to see what will work for me. As you mentioned, the majority of the boats I have been looking at have the 12 - 15 degree deadrise - for commercial work I guess...

I will use my boat for everything - running a trotline for crabs, spring & fall rock fishing in the Chesapeake to a few wreck fishing and tuna trips out of OC (very selective good weather days). Hell, I may even use it for a few sea ducks hunts during the winter!

For gods sake please listen to me with open ears, and pay attention. SHIFT your shopping to an Offshore boat that you will use occasionally in the bay, even though thats the opposite of what you said. If you buy a bay boat and get a good day offshore, you will soon forget about those "cow" rockfish and be dreaming of tuna, mahi, and eventually bills, non-stop, and a rockfish will be like fishing with a bobber in the pond for bluegills.

If you buy a bay boat you are stuck with it once your offshore addiction kicks in and it will (just a matter of time). If you buy an offshore boat, it will be fine in the bay any day.

I was in your same shoes in 2007, I fished the bay about 3 days a week, loved rockfishing, trolling livelinning ect. Wanted to get a boat that "could go offshore occasionally"

I looked at the 25 parker sport cabin (great bay boat) with a single outboard or the 26CC I have now with twin 150's and 24.5 deg deadrise and 200 gallon tank.

I thank god I went with the center console with offshore capabilities, because even though I live 100' from the Chesapeake, I ONLY get excited about blue water now and had I bought that 25 parker, I would have no teeth, compressed spine, and blown out knee caps from the pounding a 13 deg or 18 deg deadrise will give you on 90% of all ocean days.

Even on GREAT ocean days those bay hulls will pound coming off the swell, swell doesn't die over night, and in the mid Atlantic it is rare to get enough calm days in a row to give the swell time to dissipate.

If you have ANY interest in offshore fishing, get the boat now and save your self in the long run. 21 deg deadrise in the min., twins are NICE and a BIG fuel tank. You'll thank me in a season or two, when your out 60 miles from OC knee deep in mahi and whites.

[jawz12]

For gods sake please listen to me with open ears, and pay attention. SHIFT your shopping to an Offshore boat that you will use occasionally in the bay, even though thats the opposite of what you said. If you buy a bay boat and get a good day offshore, you will soon forget about those "cow" rockfish and be dreaming of tuna, mahi, and eventually bills, non-stop, and a rockfish will be like fishing with a bobber in the pond for bluegills.

If you buy a bay boat you are stuck with it once your offshore addiction kicks in and it will (just a matter of time). If you buy an offshore boat, it will be fine in the bay any day.

I was in your same shoes in 2007, I fished the bay about 3 days a week, loved rockfishing, trolling livelinning ect. Wanted to get a boat that "could go offshore occasionally"

I looked at the 25 parker sport cabin (great bay boat) with a single outboard or the 26CC I have now with twin 150's and 24.5 deg deadrise and 200 gallon tank.

I thank god I went with the center console with offshore capabilities, because even though I live 100' from the Chesapeake, I ONLY get excited about blue water now and had I bought that 25 parker, I would have no teeth, compressed spine, and blown out knee caps from the pounding a 13 deg or 18 deg deadrise will give you on 90% of all ocean days.

Even on GREAT ocean days those bay hulls will pound coming off the swell, swell doesn't die over night, and in the mid Atlantic it is rare to get enough calm days in a row to give the swell time to dissipate.

If you have ANY interest in offshore fishing, get the boat now and save your self in the long run. 21 deg deadrise in the min., twins are NICE and a BIG fuel tank. You'll thank me in a season or two, when your out 60 miles from OC knee deep in mahi and whites.

this is some of the best advise i've read...

a low deadrise boat WILL pound you to death,end of story...bay chop is usually tight chop-one after the other,real tight,running a privateer,a grady,a modified v hull parker,all these WILL rattle your teeth out...
attempting to run one of these in the normal conditions we see offshore,you're gonna need a chiropractor and a dentist on call...

[Fortunate One]

After you test ride all of the variations of hull designs in that size, then go test a catamaran. You won't believe the difference in the ride.

Now granted, I'm pushing a few years and I've had the opportunity to experience a lot of boats and since I prefer to keep my teeth intact and keep my back and knees functional for a while longer, for the money in a boat of the size you're looking for you just can't compare the ride of a cat to any conventional "V" bottom boat out there.

But don't take my word for it, go test one for yourself. Just be sure to tell the salesman to shut his or her pie hole once you leave the dock.

[rich]

Privateer also makes a 26 footer with a deep vee. I am not sure if they have it on their website or not. It is just their 28 deep vee shortened to 26. Privateer makes a solid boat. They are built about 30 minutes from my house.