No bull Anchor line length

[Flatdog]

OK lets have it Guy's I give up Guessing .
Chain, rope, length that you all haul for an overnight chunk?
Lets say you run back into the 300 line to overnight how much you guys carry? And lets say you had that new 34 RockSalt hull or the 39 IPS drive Venture, what would you load Anchor weight and length of rope/chain? To do that over night chunk safely on the 300 line? With no drift? And be Able To pull few hours of ZZZZ?

[Questsportfishing]

you should have a really good danforth type ancor not bent up and make sure the flukes can get some 'digging in' degrees to it (some new anchors dont open that far), your chain is very important it has to lay down on the bottom and be heavy enough to stay there and help dig in the anchor, rule of thumb for anchor rode/line is 3 X's the depth.. current plays a big part so does wind and waves. set your gps for anchor alarm also if your worried. when anchoring let the anchor down slowly also so it doesn't fowl up. when we anchor deep we also wet down the anchor line first. you can always add an extra piece of chain to your set up for deep stuff and use a ball to pull it.

[TunaTeaser1]

I agree with what has been said except I think 3 to 1 is a little light to be safe... I've always been taught to do more than that so you can reduce your angle. More like 6 to 1.

[HOLWACHAGOT]

I agree with what has been said except I think 3 to 1 is a little light to be safe... I've always been taught to do more than that so you can reduce your angle. More like 6 to 1.

Where do you put all the rope? Even with just 3 to 1 ratio...in 300 fathoms that's alot of rope.
I too would like to know...SERIOUSLY...how much rope are you boys carrying to do these overnight anchor/chunk trips.
2700 feet of rope would fill my boat I think.
Holwachagot

[shoefish]

I would think that with the advances in spectra technology, that it won't be long before some entrepeneureal person figures out how to mfg and sell a system with 1000# spectra- small diameter would cut down the drag, be easy to store, and would last forever...if it was hollow core you could splice to add on whatever was needed....I just can't figure out how you would pull it back up

[budddavid]

Where do you put all the rope? Even with just 3 to 1 ratio...in 300 fathoms that's alot of rope.
I too would like to know...SERIOUSLY...how much rope are you boys carrying to do these overnight anchor/chunk trips.
2700 feet of rope would fill my boat I think.
Holwachagot

I've got to believe that he is asking about anchoring in 300 ft or 50 fathoms as he referred running back in to anchor. I've never carried over 1000' of anchor rode. As others have posted the chain is the key to success.

The goal is to reduce the angle of the rode as it leads away from the anchor so the anchor is dragged across the bottom rather than up and across. The scope of the anchor rode is not constant in deep water, as it is much closer to constant in shallow water. The line has alot of bow in it rather than running in a straight line from the anchor to the boat. This is largely because of the weight of the line sagging in the middle and is exactly why the chain at the end of the rode is so important, the angle of the scope changes most dramatically over the length of the chain. In deep water the effects of current, line weight, and the cross sectional drag on the anchor line are magnified due to the large length and contribute to the complications of anchoring. It becomes much harder to follow simple rules of thumb.

[Double D]

Where do you put all the rope? Even with just 3 to 1 ratio...in 300 fathoms that's alot of rope.
I too would like to know...SERIOUSLY...how much rope are you boys carrying to do these overnight anchor/chunk trips.
2700 feet of rope would fill my boat I think.
Holwachagot

I carry 1800 feet to anchor on the 100 fathom line. 3 to 1 ratio for reasonable weather conditions is perfectly adequate, this has held for me in seas to 6' and 20 knot winds. Worse than that and I'm heading in. Boat is 32' and 18,000 lbs

1800' of 1/2" plus 30 feet of chain and a danforth fits nicely in a standard fish tote. Takes 2 guys to load it on the boat. I keep it on the swim platform during chunking season (finally found a justification for the damn platform)

[stimmy]

Dude, if you're in 300 fathoms and have no lobster pots to tie to, you need to drift! A sea anchor will slow your drift, if necessary.

[sportfishingusa]

I am also with stimmy.. I like to drift that deep.. I would NEVER tie up to a pot because it is just not my thang... but if you choose to go right ahead but normally there are no pots on the 300 line.. the pots run down the 100 line on the edge so i dont think you will find one out there. and if they are i am blind because i dont really look for them but who knows...

I would recommend anchoring on the 100-200 line if you need to...

I fish on a 41 viking and we just run long shots of rope across the bow.. We carry 3000 ft all the time.. wether we are inshore or offshore.. We also carry two anchors.. a aluminum fortress or we also carry a big steel (heavy one) one..

We also user about 20=25 ft of chain and that is all stored..

We keep it all seperate and shackle it all up when we get ready to anchor.. We drop the anchor off the bow and tie it up once it is set as usualy.. We then take the rope and loosen it and run it to the stern cleat where we then attach our anchor ball and run around and up on the line until it comes up!

Then we retrieve it from the stern as one guy take it up on the bow.. The anchor comes in the cockpit along with the chain and gets taken apart and put right away after rinsed off and down into the bilge section it goes!!

That i think is the easiest way to do it.. We normally carry a 20=25lb anchor i believe but not 100percent as i did not purchase it and my buddy bought it but who know..

They recommend 3:1 on the scope from what i understand but that also the recommendation of chain which is 6:1... They recomment 1 shot of chain for every 6 feet or 1 fathom if i remember from sea school.. but that was a long time ago... lol hahah

[Flatdog]

Thanks guys most of this we all know, it was another thread that triggered this question 300 line 2500ft line out I'm trying to grasp were you all keep it? the line that is, as this is real bulk some big numbers here, weight distribution trim etc the Bilge, makes sense pain getting it out though, sea anchors will always work, but the idea of just dropping the hook on a good chum line appeals