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    A new idea for my fathers Egg.......

    Okay, from all the input on my last post about switching over to diesels, Thats just way too expensive for what you get. How about putting new fuel injected gas motors back in? He would not be only running 4 or 5 canyon trips and the rest of the time doing inshore wrecks, fluke and stripers. His motors are running but he gets a little les than a half mile to the gallon with the 4 barrels. Any one have an idea of the fuel economy he could expect with new motors? It is a 1986 35' Egg its a heavy solid boat in great shape........okay let me have it, the good the bad and the ugly...

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    a new set will run just fine!

    I would contact your local dealer / boatyard and get a price they have got to be 454's right? get a quote from Jerry's marine service here in ft lauderdale for the package engines that only require plugging in the harness and attaching battery cables. your 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of diesel re-power! they have good warrantees and then your fishing again... hope you all the best on the re-power! Do 1 more thing though...check with cummins diesel about the 6B re-con options for repower they are great engines and should be inexpensive and the boat should have some resale in a cpl years.. the cummins re-con system has a great network of mechanics / parts and reliability and last I seen were inexpensive!

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    Dreamin, I ask anyone before they do a diesel re-power, if this is your "10 year" boat. The reason is that if you do the math and divide by 10, that's what'll cost you for a boat like you want. If your looking to re-power, sell and move on then that is another matter. If you re-power and decide to sell in 5 years, well you've got a "gas" powered boat. From what I see the value is way less. Never mind the "explosion" factor. If you do decide to go back with gas, be sure to give the Electronic Fuel Injected engines a good look. They should cut your fuel consumption considerably over carburated engines.Frank, SeaPower

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    Just one more thing to consider. First of all I like the older heavier boats, in my book heavy is good. But to push "heavy" you have to have torque. This is evident by the comparison of prop sizes on boats that have diesel or gas power. If you look at 2 boats with the same "horse power" rating but 1 is gas and 1 is diesel, you'll see a big difference in prop diameter, pitch, shaft diameter, transmission size, etc.... It's apple's and orange's. Torque is your twisting force, gas can't compare. That's why diesel gives you more bang for the buck. No arguement here, you can only afford what you can afford. I have a 25 footer with twin Honda 4 strokes, it's what I can afford. I'm not downing your boat or decision, just trying to give you solid info. Good luck. Frank,SeaPower

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    Thanks, the boat is in great shape and the ride is amazing, because its a heavy boat. The reason we thought about putting gas fuel injected motors in was because of the cost factor. just plain old MPG, we are getting a half mile to the gallon with the old 4 barrels. The motors have about 700 hours on them, they run its just economy. It just seems crazy to spend all that money to change all the rigging and everything else to go to Diesels.

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    honestly,if you're serious about this,i would not do it...reason being,if the engines you currently have run well,why spend the money for a repower with gas engines again ??? the fuel economy isn't gonna be all that much.if you're thinking you're gonna get 2nmpg ,you're sadly mistaken,it's not gonna happen...you're gonna drop a big chunk of change for new power and the savings you're gonna see in fuel is gonna be minimal...
    if i were you,i would keep what you've got...take the money you're gonna spend for new engines and put it toward a different boat...it's the smart play...
    i doubt if you're gonna find a set of 454's...these engines have been discontinued,it's the 8.1 now...these engines are not cheap...you're gonna need a no return fuel system-crusader engines,by the time you get done,the 2 engines,bob tail-no gears,are gonna run in the area of $25k-that's both,again,no gears...that's alot of cheeze to drop on an old rig,that when it's time to sell,it's worth nothing because of the fact it's gas powered-don't mean to be harsh here,just being truthfull... trust me,save your money on the new gas power...
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    We have been trying to sell for 2 years and now are down to 45K all because of the market, the boat is worth much more than that. I have been told new fuel injected motors can bring over 1nm per gallon as opposed to the 1/2 mile we are currently getting. Its kind of a no win situation for us we know, just dont want to give it away for nothing.

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    Wrong kind of fuel injection

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamininjersey View Post
    I have been told new fuel injected motors can bring over 1nm per gallon as opposed to the 1/2 mile we are currently getting.
    DIESEL fuel injection maybe. Gasoline....no. Jawz 12 is right, if it's in good shape just run the boat. You'll never recover the costs in mileage.

    I would only consider a repower if A) you can do it yourself and save the labor costs and plan to keep the boat for 10 years or B) you love this boat so much you want to pass it on to your kid. Then put a set of B-series Cummins in it. Eggs are nice boats but (not to sound like I have a Hattitiude) they aren't worth that kind of $$$$.
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    If you are going to sell,

    Don't do a thing, won't bring your value up much. I'm not trashing your boat here, just stating the facts as I see them. You've got a nice ,old , gas powered boat. You could do pretty much anything you want, but it won't help much now. Yes you could re-power with some newer fuel injected (gas) engines. I doubt you'd recoup the additional money spent, even if you were able to find a buyer for the boat. If you can't sell the boat and the engines run as good as you say, just enjoy it yourselve's. Run it easy enough to stay out of the 4 barrell, about 3200 to 3250 rpm I'm guessing. I used to go up and down the coast (literally) at 8 knots, I remember seeing my first 16 knot boat. We still fished and had a good time. You don't have to go 35 knots to catch fish or enjoy a day out on the water. If it's paid for, it's worth something right there, that in it self has alot of appeal now adays.Frank,SeaPower

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