need advice on 29 or 32 regulator

[BoundForGlory]

Hi Mary,
Sorry if it seemed like I was jumping on you back. You contribute much more to this site then I ever could and most likely could teach me a lot about boating and fishing. But lets understand that you are to a certain extent bias, you don't sell Regs and you sell Contenders. If you had started/stated that you have been on Regs so you know how they compare then that would be different. Hearing someone say something is different than actually experiencing it, you know that. I have only seen Contenders when looking to buy a boat and have not fished one so I have never commented on them. As you said maybe the Reg owner didn't know how to run his boat for the sea conditions. I might not have "jumped" on you if you had tried to sell the guy a boat in his price range. As he says his looking for something 29-32', twin engines, electronics, some sort of warranty. I would think even though his question was about Regulators that if you had a boat in his range that he would give you a shot.

Sorry about the misunderstanding, if you want we can trade rides to understand each other better.

Rich

Originally Posted by LuckyLady

No need to jump on my back buddy! Cream of the crop is for the Contender forward seating. I am not a bias person but there are other options out there that many do not explore and the forward seating being a newer option for Contender most are unaware of it having forward seating.

I do this for a living I watch boats like the stock market. I could care less what people buy, its thier money and thier decision but its an investment and like a 2nd home and I want people to make an educated buy and avoid many mistakes others have made. I am not here to spam or fight with people. Never have never will!

I would also like to comment on resale. The Regulators are a great boat by all means but in recent discovery owners are having a tough time selling them. Some of the Contenders are experiencing it but not as badly. The T's are a whole new series of boats and as of now they are fine and should remain fine for many years to come. I have been experiencing the past few months a shortage of certain size models used there is just none out there.

For example a guy I spoke to the other week has an excellent 26 very clean and spotless and worth every penny that he is asking. When I go to the market there are 30 more of them out there all a little different but not much looking for higher and lower than what he is looking for. Now he has 30 boats to compete with in 10-15k price difference. Regulator and quite a few of its dealers have made BAD decision in what they sold boats for some got raped and others set free. What does that do to a market, it is not level by any means

The 32 Regulator is not to far away and the 29 is not so bad at this point.

As for can I put him in one for 120k I am 98% sure. I have pulled many tricks out of my hat in the past and I am very confident and comfortable shopping for boats with my knowledge skills and network. I would never steer somebody wrong.

Are all center consoles wet? Yes at times have I got wetter on others hell yeah

A comment that I heard at the Contender Regulator shootout from a Regulator owner at breakfast and they were a 29 or 32. "I wish we were on a Contender that went by us yesterday morning they looked so dry and comfortable, it sucked" No lie I heard it. Maybe they do not know how to run the boat properly its possible but not everyone knows how to properly run a boat without experience and not everyone has the experience.

I don't get paid to sell Contenders I am not with a dealer anymore and I am on my own and EVERYONE is entitled to thier own opinion and facts.

Like I said best of the best in your search if I can be of help its free and you are more than welcome!

[JUST RELEASED 34]

Originally Posted by sportfishingusa

WHY PEOPLE WANT THESE BOATS.. I MEAN THE FISHAROUND CAPABILITIES ARE NICE BUT SO WHAT... THE COCKPITS ARE TINY AND THEY ARE NOT RUNNING 40+ KTS IN ANYTHING LIKE THEY THINK.


i have spent tons of time and i WILL NOT AND I REPEAT I WILL NOT RAIN ON ANYONES PARADE OR SCREW WITH THEIR DREAMS OF OWNING ONE.. but as a consumer i am going to voice my opinion and attempt to justify it..

all CCs are wet.. ALL BOATS ARE WET!! but with ccs you got no way to get out of the elements unless you buy something with a cuddy or something to that effect.

the boats run fast but are not running fast thru 4-6s like they claim.. they do not get the great fuel mileage that everyone preaches.. they are not doing their testing in the NE they are doing their testing in flat calm seas or test tanks!!
just the way the industry works.

any salesman will promise you the world.. you want to spend that kind of money?? go get a 28 henriques.. not that is worth it.

i got my smaller CC which is a 24 proline CC and it has more cockpit room than a new 32 contender!

I was checking out canyon runners this past weekend when i stopped down before they went offshore for a chat with adam, phill and checked out the new boats! the regulator is SWEET trust me.. but i dont think it is jusifiable for the money you are going to spend on it.. plus there is NO WHERE to get out of the weather is CHIT hits the fan.. i have been doing my research and i have checked out numerous boats on the market and i could not justify nor would i allow myself to buy a big cc like that.. WHY!?!? i asked myself.

WHY would i want to be in a light boat going back when i wont be able to go that fast more than ahand ful of times.?!??!

i rather push 28kts in 4s in the 28 henriques than waste my money on getting outboards and not being able to run in it.. IT IS NOT COMFORTABLE!!

I AM NOT SAYING YOU CAN NOT DO THE RUNNING, BUT IT IS NOT COMFORTABLE.. THESE BOATS ARE NOT KEELED!!! THEY SLAM AND THEY SLAM!! SOME MAY BEG TO DIFFER BUT THEY ARE NOT RUNING 40 IN 4S!!

like i said.. i am no professional but please take my comments as they are.. no one jump on me as this is JUST HOW I FEEL! AND I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT!

GOOD LUCK SHOPPING BUT DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND KEEP SHOPPING!! YOU BUY THE BOAT YOU WANT, DONT LET ANY SALES PERSON SELL YOU A BOAT!!

YOU GOT TO DRIVE IT, FISH IT, CLEAN IT, AND MAINTAIN IT.....

GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH!

LOL.....your funny.......running a 24 proline with all the knowledge..

[Tricia Lynn]

As a 32 Regulator owner I will say that Sportfishingusa has no idea what he is talking about here. I am speaking from experience not speculation

[sportfishingusa]

I do not come off as a regulator or a contender owner or professional.. if you guys would read between the lines you would see it was only my opinion.. You can give him all the advice you want but i was giving my opinions not complete first hand advise..

everyone doest have to jump on anyones back.. and hubris i got 24 proline cc and a 33 express.. i also run a 41 viking out of barnegat light nj called the happy hooker and i also run a 35 proline out of crystal point..

if you want references you can call captain eddie yates on the fishing charter boat hunter out of barnegat light, you can call captain charles eble on the doris mae, you can call ed sage the owner of the happy hooker, you can call hm lets see..captain lindsay fuller on the june bug out of beach haven, you can also try jay jessup on the sea jay out of crystal point.. i can dig up a few more just running out of space..

Robja hit the nail on the head with fighting from the front.. but if you are offshore in 4-5 ft seas that kick up and are trolling 8 rods and 1 goes off.. you are going to have to fight the fish all around the boat.. DID NOT SAY ONE BAD THING ABOUT THESE BOATS OTHER THAN NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR ME!!!!!

I said i feel they are not worth the money TO ME!! thats all i said.. there are many more options.. and mary you are a contender sales women.. you know alot more than me but have you run alot of big boats?!? the luxury is far more useful and the fishability is somewhat better IMHO!!!!

get it guys?!? my opinion..

[DEEP DEFIANCE]

I dont see what all the fuss is about! maybe he wants A reg,maybe he likes the lines of the regs better!For 120K hes not going to get into A 33t.There are plenty of 31 contenders on the market,did he ask A question about contenders?no,would contender be another good option yes it would.But the question was in the direction of A reg so whats the problem with that?

[DEEP DEFIANCE]

If anyone does know where I can buy A 33t for A 120k let me know?preferably with twin 350's so I can follow in Undisputed Joe's footprints,and maybe I will catch A 402lb mako!lol

[sportfishingusa]

Originally Posted by DEEP DEFIANCE

If anyone does know where I can buy A 33t for A 120k let me know?preferably with twin 350's so I can follow in Undisputed Joe's footprints,and maybe I will catch A 402lb mako!lol

Aint that the truth....

I'm picking up what your putting down deep! i was just making my opinions clear just like everyone else on here.. i have been shopping for a boat for about 1 yr now and i can not get a hand on what i prefer.. i spend 4 months looking into regs and other ccs because thats what i thought i wanted.. i changed my mind after i did my research and got onto a lot of them and other boats... i did not tell him how, where, or who to spend his money with.. i was just letting him know what i have learned thru my searching and research and how i felt just as mary and everyone else said they were wet, and under powered.... i didnt say they were not built like tanks, nor did i say they were garbage.. they are all solid boats and all offer their share of features and nice fishabilties.. which i did like.. but what i didnt like is what i stated..

unlike mary said i AM NOT TELLING HIM HOW TO SPEND HIS MONEY, NOR AM I CONSTRUING ANYTHING TO DETER HIM.. he asked between the boats, and instead of letting a guy settle on it i told him how i felt.

Thats the bottom line.. take it for what it is worth.. i have been on them.. i have run them... and i have seen what they do and how they handle.. take it for what it is worth or dont take it at all.. no worries!!

Vic,

i hope you find the boat you were looking for, if you need any help with anything let me know and i would talk to you about anything you wanted to know about what I FEEL..

Dont buy a boat on specification as i know you wouldnt do that! put in the time as you have and the right boat will fall upon you man! good luck with whatever you purchase bro!!

Tight lines and calm seas for the new boat! just invite me to the christianing so i can see it!! lol

VInnie

[LuckyLady]

I feel bad the thread is now hijacked but I have the right to defend untrue statements. If I didn't question the 24 Proline and 32 Contender statement some one would read that and say OMG WTF and really he never stepped on a 31T and was speaking of a Regulator

I understand where you are coming from I do support contender because they have been great to me and the boats, that means so much to me in many ways. With any quality boat not just Contender there is a sense of relief at the end of the day. People have asked me before why not another brand. Well I am loyal as they come. The biggest thing to me is time and by time I mean not getting 50 phone calls my boat is broke. Rather than broken boat phone calls I get fishing reports and family reports that I much rather hear. I sleep better at night knowing at the end of the day I can walk away and feel good about myself.

I made a discovery with a customer/acquaintance of mine and this to me horrible and I do not know how that asshole sleeps at night knowing that he marked up and sold a boat for 100% over invoice. How the hell do you feel good about yourself? Scum bag is the words that come to mind on this one.

I do sell Regulators, I will sell you what ever you want. I will evaluate your situation and make sure you know every side of it and no rock unturned. That goes for anything Fountain Donzi Contender Regulator Proline Wellcraft Yellowfin Seavee Hydrasport so on and so forth. I will help any one and everyone educate themselves.

Its a shame that I hear time and time again from people saying, I WISH I NEVER BOUGHT THIS or should of bought this or that. I try to help people eliminate mistakes and open eyes to many different area's that sometime are left unnoticed.

There is a certain brand every time I go to sell them the people are 20-30k upside down. Did they know the resale sucked when they bought it. Nope, but now they do and they are stuck as they can be.

I have talked to people before in the NE that never even heard of a Contender or any of the S Florida boats. It happens, some people just do not have the time to research and do thier homework.

Those are the people who get ripped off not by money and quality or what ever else it may be poor resale problematic engines

I just want to help people that's all, nothing more nothing less.

No offense taken by any means I just wanted to clear things up.

I hope this thread doesn't derail future people

Originally Posted by BoundForGlory

Hi Mary,
Sorry if it seemed like I was jumping on you back. You contribute much more to this site then I ever could and most likely could teach me a lot about boating and fishing. But lets understand that you are to a certain extent bias, you don't sell Regs and you sell Contenders. If you had started/stated that you have been on Regs so you know how they compare then that would be different. Hearing someone say something is different than actually experiencing it, you know that. I have only seen Contenders when looking to buy a boat and have not fished one so I have never commented on them. As you said maybe the Reg owner didn't know how to run his boat for the sea conditions. I might not have "jumped" on you if you had tried to sell the guy a boat in his price range. As he says his looking for something 29-32', twin engines, electronics, some sort of warranty. I would think even though his question was about Regulators that if you had a boat in his range that he would give you a shot.

Sorry about the misunderstanding, if you want we can trade rides to understand each other better.

Rich

[sportfishingusa]

MARY,

you have always been a solid person for advise and knowledge and you continue to do so!! Keep up the good work as you know we all enjoy your time and effort you put into your reponses!!

why dont you come to forked river and list my boat for me!! i want to get rid of it! lol

then maybe.. just maybe since i run other bigger boats offfshore you can talk me into one of your contenders. '

or better yet i will just buy you dinner and a drink...

[alltackle]

If I had to pick between the two boats mentioned, I would go with the 29'. I fished a 32' and although a very nice boat, the power/weight ratio was not to my liking. If the 32' had 350's, then the problem is solved althought the burn rate would be a hard one with $5 gallon fuel.

My friend has a 29 and he fishes it hard core out of NC Outer Banks. He said it runs great and it is a tank and can handle most seas.

The 29 will be much easier to trailer.