HELP ME START HER UP PALEESE!! - Page 2

Deep C · 10-17-2006, 11:10 AM

I spent the night stewing about this. I had just blurted out what came to my head. What have I done? I needed to lay awake on the pillow and stare at the ceiling for hours....
Then the answer came... Oh shit! Computer is defragging... Can't post. Was gonna send smoke signals but it was dark. Computer was still defragging when I left to do a trip this morn. People started turning green so I pulled the plug and told them we can take the other 6 hours tomorrow...
Raced back to deliver what came to me in the night in a flash of divine intervention... Oh crap theres the phone... Gotta go I'll be back later!

WAHOONBOX · 10-17-2006, 11:15 AM

YEAH.......WHERE'S JAWZ AT???

I WILL SOON GO TO THE SICK VESSEL IN PART AND DO ALL THE ABOVE AND ANY ADDED REMEDIES....VIDEO REPAIR COMING SOON

BTH284 · 10-17-2006, 11:22 AM

If you go with the charger, make sure to put the battery switch to all if you have a switch and are running two batteries. Also, the charger will need to be at least a 2 bank charger which will increase the price a little. If not all of the above just switch the charger to each battery once in a while.

Just for giggles. Think of amperage as the volume of water coming out of a hose. Lots of volume will knock you down. If it is a drip, it is still water (voltage) but a drip has no force behind it (ie no amperage).

Proheat · 10-17-2006, 11:25 AM

MARTY- DEFENITELY SOUNDS LIKE A LOW BATTERY OR LOOSE BATTERY CABLE/CONNECTIONS OR DIRTY/CORRODED CONNECTIONS.

gradywhite273 · 10-17-2006, 11:26 AM

I know marty just did the rewiring on the bilge pump, im worried that their maybe a draw somewhere on there that is killing the one battery. I truly believe that should be checked out. Box not that im questioning your wiring, just seems odd.

tim

Deep C · 10-17-2006, 11:39 AM

So again... Where is Jawz! I want to see if my revalation that came to me in the night was right... That was... Oh shit another phone call.... I'll be back!

Double D · 10-17-2006, 12:19 PM

All right, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say start with the fuel system

the problem did not surface until the gas tank was sucked dry. This was after a long run in, the alternator should have been charging the whole way. The odds of 2 problems surfacing at the same time are relatively small.

I agree with OCNSLR, it sounds like the fuel pump spinning. I would first see that the engine is primed.

Next check the filters for water or debris. In addition to any primary filter, you also have 2 fuel filters under the cowling. There is a low pressure fuel pump and filter, and a high pressure pump and filter. There may also be a water sensor that is not allowing the starter to initiate

On my Mercs, if I do not have adequate voltage, I will get a single click, but not the sound you are getting. I am assuming the electronic safeties on the zukes are similiar

jawz12 · 10-17-2006, 08:56 PM

sorry boys...

been real tied up....my mama's been sick...sorry...

marty...it makes that sound when you attempt to crank the engine,right??? sounds like low voltage...low batteries?? try a jump pack and see if it fires up...if it still makes that sound,check the connections at the battery cables,be sure to check the connections behind the battery switches as well-common spot for corrosion to build......

Chilli · 10-18-2006, 12:58 PM

Marty,

My first reaction was to agree with the guys that you have a battery issue, which you may indeed have. Then after listening to the vid a few times some things occured to me. My suzuki's don't sound like that when the battery is near dead. Instead if the battery is dead I will get only one click when I turn the key and then nothing... If the battery is near dead you will hear the starter spin up and connect with the fly wheel and then nothing... I also thought that O sea D might be on to something with the fuel pump, but I fear that if he was right, you would hear the starter spinning the flywheel over the noise of the fuel pump.....

I would start where everybody else pointed you and charge the batteries... I would certainly not discount O Sea D's theory. I have never encountered that with the Suzuki's we have on the company boats...

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

74Formula233 · 10-18-2006, 01:50 PM

As ocnslr said, check your fuel, and also watch out trying to start it if the fuel pump is in fact dry.

Those damn things are very sensitive in that respect!

Water in your fuel and/or running the pump dry will KILL them in short order.

I have a friend of mine that has had his brand new E-Tec in a dozen times for the fuel pump (water in the fuel for some reason).

10-17-2006, 11:15 AM	#12
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10-17-2006, 08:56 PM	#18
jawz12 I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: cape may nj Posts: 1,748 Boat: 37' custom "lobstah" boat Home Port: cape may nj Best Catch: my dog jawz... Occupation: assistant grounds keeper	jawz to the rescue !!!! sorry boys... been real tied up....my mama's been sick...sorry... marty...it makes that sound when you attempt to crank the engine,right??? sounds like low voltage...low batteries?? try a jump pack and see if it fires up...if it still makes that sound,check the connections at the battery cables,be sure to check the connections behind the battery switches as well-common spot for corrosion to build......

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10-17-2006, 11:22 AM	#13
BTH284 I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Inshore Posts: 3,131 Boat: 23 shortbus Home Port: Morehead City Occupation: Working smarter...not harder	If you go with the charger, make sure to put the battery switch to all if you have a switch and are running two batteries. Also, the charger will need to be at least a 2 bank charger which will increase the price a little. If not all of the above just switch the charger to each battery once in a while. Just for giggles. Think of amperage as the volume of water coming out of a hose. Lots of volume will knock you down. If it is a drip, it is still water (voltage) but a drip has no force behind it (ie no amperage).

10-17-2006, 11:39 AM	#16
Deep C Master of all things wet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Plywood State Posts: 14,612 Boat: Several Home Port: Palm Beach Best Catch: Mrs Deep Occupation: Killin Stuff	So again... Where is Jawz! I want to see if my revalation that came to me in the night was right... That was... Oh shit another phone call.... I'll be back!

10-17-2006, 12:19 PM	#17
Double D I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 2,915	All right, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say start with the fuel system the problem did not surface until the gas tank was sucked dry. This was after a long run in, the alternator should have been charging the whole way. The odds of 2 problems surfacing at the same time are relatively small. I agree with OCNSLR, it sounds like the fuel pump spinning. I would first see that the engine is primed. Next check the filters for water or debris. In addition to any primary filter, you also have 2 fuel filters under the cowling. There is a low pressure fuel pump and filter, and a high pressure pump and filter. There may also be a water sensor that is not allowing the starter to initiate On my Mercs, if I do not have adequate voltage, I will get a single click, but not the sound you are getting. I am assuming the electronic safeties on the zukes are similiar

10-18-2006, 12:58 PM	#19
Chilli Crab mustard is good Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sparks, Maryland Posts: 622 Occupation: Survey Vessel Captain, Sportfishing Mate	Marty, My first reaction was to agree with the guys that you have a battery issue, which you may indeed have. Then after listening to the vid a few times some things occured to me. My suzuki's don't sound like that when the battery is near dead. Instead if the battery is dead I will get only one click when I turn the key and then nothing... If the battery is near dead you will hear the starter spin up and connect with the fly wheel and then nothing... I also thought that O sea D might be on to something with the fuel pump, but I fear that if he was right, you would hear the starter spinning the flywheel over the noise of the fuel pump..... I would start where everybody else pointed you and charge the batteries... I would certainly not discount O Sea D's theory. I have never encountered that with the Suzuki's we have on the company boats... Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

10-18-2006, 01:50 PM	#20
74Formula233 I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southern Rhode Island Posts: 2,087	As ocnslr said, check your fuel, and also watch out trying to start it if the fuel pump is in fact dry. Those damn things are very sensitive in that respect! Water in your fuel and/or running the pump dry will KILL them in short order. I have a friend of mine that has had his brand new E-Tec in a dozen times for the fuel pump (water in the fuel for some reason).