The custom build continues; A photo update. - Page 2

billh1963 · 08-12-2008, 08:30 AM

I love these custom builts. I see that you are putting a lot of thought into using lightweight materials where possible. How much lighter do you anticipate the boat being over a "normal" glass boat?

Fortunate One · 08-12-2008, 10:07 PM

Bill,

We're not going to weigh any less than a production boat. What we're doing is building in strength and rigidity into the hull.

This boat is built for fishing the northeast canyons and there isn't any replacement for weight and shear strength.

Capt. Brian Daley · 08-13-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortunate One

Bill,

We're not going to weigh any less than a production boat. What we're doing is building in strength and rigidity into the hull.

This boat is built for fishing the northeast canyons and there isn't any replacement for weight and shear strength.

Smart thinking there and she's coming along great pretty work
guys

clt_capt · 08-13-2008, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortunate One

Bill,

We're not going to weigh any less than a production boat. What we're doing is building in strength and rigidity into the hull.

This boat is built for fishing the northeast canyons and there isn't any replacement for weight and shear strength.

She is pretty - glad to hear that she will be strong as well. There are a lot of non-structural places to save some weight.

Great work on the cabling, hoses, etc. Seems really well though out.

Tunaman40 · 08-13-2008, 03:06 PM

Nice work.... very neat and clean

. A true labor of love

billh1963 · 08-13-2008, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortunate One

Bill,

We're not going to weigh any less than a production boat. What we're doing is building in strength and rigidity into the hull.

This boat is built for fishing the northeast canyons and there isn't any replacement for weight and shear strength.

I gotcha. I thought maybe you were looking for some weight savings to save some fuel. I certainly agree with wanting strength for offshore runs!

Fortunate One · 08-13-2008, 09:53 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys,

I just came back from the shed after a looooong day at work.

I saw the generator showed up and it looks like it’s about ready to be installed. The upper section of the bridge deck has been installed and Morgan must be installing the PTO because one of the front engine covers has been removed.

Once the genset is put in it’s place in the engine room, they'll install the final section of bridge deck.

There's a lot more stuff happening a the same time but just knowing that the last small section of deck will be going on ... makes me reflect on what has transpired up to this point.

It's certainly been a great experience.

I've been told that I'm crazy to go with teak decks along with a mahogany transom and toe rail on the bow.

I'm actually considering having the dodger laminated with mahogany that will be varnished.

Yep, I know that may sound crazy but when I walk the docks in Newport and see the distinct yachts, well they can just take your breath away.

So I ask myself why can't a custom express fishing boat leave the same impression? Why can't the classic beauty of wooden boats be presented in the form of a badass express?

There are plenty of production boats on the water and some of the manufacturers are incorporating some of the old classic components into their products in an attempt to make them appear to stand out. But what happens if old school style is really blended into a modern boat?

I hear a lot of people say; "Oh I wouldn't want to have to maintain that". But yet they stand there and stear at the restored mahogany racing boat.

Most pleasure boaters’ take the time to soak in the beauty of old restored wooden boats, fishing or pleasure. I know I do.

Hummmm! I wonder.....

backman · 08-14-2008, 06:58 AM

Hey MIke:

Your comment about the NE canyons got me thinking - part of our fishery is the 10 hour night drift in Sept in sometimes less than pleasant sea conditions.

What sort of thought have you given to roll and pitch control during those long and sloppy nights.

I use this
http://www.magmaproducts.com/Product...tabilizer.html

and a drift sock on a 28' on sloppy evenings and it does a tolerable job of dampening pitch and roll.

If you haven't already given it thought you might want to think about how to design in a solution as part of the final fit out.

Larry

Fortunate One · 08-14-2008, 10:04 AM

Larry,

That's an interesting product.

Other than the hull designed to provide stability and with the intent on keeping a sea anchor set up on board I haven't given it much thought.

The hull has a real sharp entry and she's 23 degrees amidships but it flattens out like a Florida boat at the transom. She’s certainly not going to snap like a Viking or a Bertram of the same size.

We also have the keel that will resist roll slightly and aggressive chines below the water line that are reversed cupped so that will add to the stability.

But as you well know it's all a compromise.

Interesting product though.

backman · 08-14-2008, 10:13 AM

I've used it for 10 years now and its saved my bacon on the deep V 28 more than once.

Its at its best boomed away from the boat - basically a bird for a sporty or sailboat; but booming it requires a hull mounted socket and a couple more cleats than I have.

We have run it off the outrigger backstay and broke the backstay (bad, bad) as well as off the collar of an extended rigger. Nothing broke in that case but I didn't like the stress that was put on the rigger and tower. As the door opens and shuts it creates an enormous pull in the water; more force than I felt comfortable with on the rigger and tower.

I now run it on the upsea midships cleat so it flies a few feet out from the hull. Dropped down 20' it will transform 3-4's from hell to survivable.

You have a lot more weight and no doubt more engineering behind the design but you might want to bounce the concept of a Sept 3-5', steady 15 knot night off your designer.

08-13-2008, 09:53 PM	#17
Fortunate One Stop staring at my Avatar. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 432 Credits: 3,228.7	Thanks for the compliments guys, I just came back from the shed after a looooong day at work. I saw the generator showed up and it looks like it’s about ready to be installed. The upper section of the bridge deck has been installed and Morgan must be installing the PTO because one of the front engine covers has been removed. Once the genset is put in it’s place in the engine room, they'll install the final section of bridge deck. There's a lot more stuff happening a the same time but just knowing that the last small section of deck will be going on ... makes me reflect on what has transpired up to this point. It's certainly been a great experience. I've been told that I'm crazy to go with teak decks along with a mahogany transom and toe rail on the bow. I'm actually considering having the dodger laminated with mahogany that will be varnished. Yep, I know that may sound crazy but when I walk the docks in Newport and see the distinct yachts, well they can just take your breath away. So I ask myself why can't a custom express fishing boat leave the same impression? Why can't the classic beauty of wooden boats be presented in the form of a badass express? There are plenty of production boats on the water and some of the manufacturers are incorporating some of the old classic components into their products in an attempt to make them appear to stand out. But what happens if old school style is really blended into a modern boat? I hear a lot of people say; "Oh I wouldn't want to have to maintain that". But yet they stand there and stear at the restored mahogany racing boat. Most pleasure boaters’ take the time to soak in the beauty of old restored wooden boats, fishing or pleasure. I know I do. Hummmm! I wonder..... Last edited by Fortunate One; 08-13-2008 at 09:54 PM.

08-14-2008, 06:58 AM	#18
backman I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mass Posts: 1,205 Credits: 4,977.1 Boat: Carolina Classic 28 Home Port: Falmouth	Hey MIke: Your comment about the NE canyons got me thinking - part of our fishery is the 10 hour night drift in Sept in sometimes less than pleasant sea conditions. What sort of thought have you given to roll and pitch control during those long and sloppy nights. I use this http://www.magmaproducts.com/Product...tabilizer.html and a drift sock on a 28' on sloppy evenings and it does a tolerable job of dampening pitch and roll. If you haven't already given it thought you might want to think about how to design in a solution as part of the final fit out. Larry Last edited by backman; 08-14-2008 at 07:45 AM.

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08-12-2008, 10:07 PM	#12
Fortunate One Stop staring at my Avatar. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 432 Credits: 3,228.7	Bill, We're not going to weigh any less than a production boat. What we're doing is building in strength and rigidity into the hull. This boat is built for fishing the northeast canyons and there isn't any replacement for weight and shear strength.

08-13-2008, 03:06 PM	#15
Tunaman40 Sit down Shut up And fish Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belmar NJ Posts: 540 Credits: 2,049.6 Boat: What everone is closest Home Port: none to speak of Best Catch: BFT 1985 1,035lbs Occupation: Devoted father	Nice work.... very neat and clean . A true labor of love

08-14-2008, 10:04 AM	#19
Fortunate One Stop staring at my Avatar. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 432 Credits: 3,228.7	Larry, That's an interesting product. Other than the hull designed to provide stability and with the intent on keeping a sea anchor set up on board I haven't given it much thought. The hull has a real sharp entry and she's 23 degrees amidships but it flattens out like a Florida boat at the transom. She’s certainly not going to snap like a Viking or a Bertram of the same size. We also have the keel that will resist roll slightly and aggressive chines below the water line that are reversed cupped so that will add to the stability. But as you well know it's all a compromise. Interesting product though.

08-14-2008, 10:13 AM	#20
backman I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mass Posts: 1,205 Credits: 4,977.1 Boat: Carolina Classic 28 Home Port: Falmouth	I've used it for 10 years now and its saved my bacon on the deep V 28 more than once. Its at its best boomed away from the boat - basically a bird for a sporty or sailboat; but booming it requires a hull mounted socket and a couple more cleats than I have. We have run it off the outrigger backstay and broke the backstay (bad, bad) as well as off the collar of an extended rigger. Nothing broke in that case but I didn't like the stress that was put on the rigger and tower. As the door opens and shuts it creates an enormous pull in the water; more force than I felt comfortable with on the rigger and tower. I now run it on the upsea midships cleat so it flies a few feet out from the hull. Dropped down 20' it will transform 3-4's from hell to survivable. You have a lot more weight and no doubt more engineering behind the design but you might want to bounce the concept of a Sept 3-5', steady 15 knot night off your designer.