when using wire line for trolling, which combos do u find best to use??
when using wire line for trolling, which combos do u find best to use??
personally I like the Penn senators 9/0 or 12/0 on a 80lb rod with roller guides. The reels are tough and you can't beat the sound they make when Mr. Hoo shows up...
Depends on what you are fishing for....
For stripers, the Penn 113 HSP is the defacto standard. Solid and indestructable.
I guess they would work for Hoo's. But I've only caught one 'Hoo, so don't take my word for it. The star drag would get awfully hot on a smoking long run. You also may need more line capacity for a bigger 'Hoo.... I think Penn makes a 114 wide that is made for wire...
Mike
Actually their wire reel was the narrow spool 49M which was made for lake trout fishing. Could still be used with braided wire for wahoo or king macks.
6/0 Penn in the black plate series (lower gear ratio...easier for folks to turn the handle) is the standard for S. fl. charter operations....as well as the 9/0 black plate (may be the only way they come).
the big issue is spool composition compatability with the wire itself and electrolosis.
Aluminum spooled reels react rather quickly with the wire line.
The chromed brass on most Penn's reacts, but slow enough, you can get a year or three before there's a real problem.
al;len
I still have (and use ) the Penn 49s for my wire line rods. They are for striper fishing and have been converted to HT 100 drags washers and power handles. I spool them with #40 monel and have some with lead core also all on #80 roller rods. Not glamous but effective and affordable.Many guys have gone to the 330/340 super levelwinders for this.![]()
as pointed out, it really makes a huge difference whether its stripers or offshore species that you're setting up for. I'll say I know jack about offshore wirelining, but for bass you also have to decide what you're gonna pull. Here in the NY Bight it's either spoons and mojos or umbrella rigs.
If you're gonna just drag the rigs then a 6-foot stand-up styled rod like the Penn Sabre has worked well for me. If spooning is your game then you have to set up with a good pair of rods as they are the key point. Shimano had a pair of tallu 8 footers that were sweet, probably the best production spoon rods I've seen but most go the custom route. No matter what way you go, make sure they have the carboloy or similar guides.
for reels, Penn 113 is the standard, though the 114 is a good choice also. You have to flat crank wire without pumping the rod so the more line retrieved, the better. The big reason that the penns are the favorites is the fact that they have a chrome spool available. Wire will chew up aluminum and you'll be replacing the spool after a few years. Bass fishing with wire is mega hard on reels so you'll be seeing brass gears turned to dust and bent dogs requiring a full rebuild every few years anyway if you use them hard. It's another reason why the senators get the nod, they're just bulletproof and cheap to fix.
the older narrow frame penns like the 49 are old favorites too, chrome spool that narrow and deep so you get a lot of line for every crank. Of all the old retired spooning set-ups I've seen, those seemed to be most popular once upon a time. Don't know why you don;t still see a lot of them but they're probably getting harder to find parts for.
make sure you go with marked wire as it's just much easier and put plenty of backing on.
hopefully you're looking to bass fish...lol
Always swimming against the tide
for stripers i use 6' rod w/roller tip and penn 49l work best for me
9'-10' wireline rods made by Kevin Bogan or there are some decent rods out by Star, Seeker and Shimano. As for reels it is tought to beat TLD 20's or 25s. I know some people will point out that the spools will corode as they are aluminum but we have been using them for over 15 years and replaced the spools once. We have been also using the Shimano Tekota 800 and they have worked great as well, the are easier in the they have level winds. These are the setups we use for spoons.
As for rigs we use a heavier 8' rod with the same reels as mentioned above.
Parts for these are not to hard as they share some with the other Senator series reels. they can be upgraded(HT100drag washers). It's always a good idea to back up the wire with something. I use #50 dacron.![]()