What mono to put on 50w's??

[kidconshy]

Just got two Shimano 50w's and I wanted to see what mono everyone recomends to fill them with?

I was thinking Momoi hi catch or the hi catch diamond, is there a difference between the two and if so which is better?I was also thinking about the Suffix superior and the Jinkai mono.

The other thing is what lb test to put on there after I decide what brand.The reels will be used mainly for sharking as I dont do much fishing for tuna,that being said is there a prefrence on what lb test to use for what its intended use is?

I was thinking of going with 60lb which will give me about 700yards on the spool.I think if I go 80lbs it will be around 550yards. I will also be using 250lb Basil wind on leaders to whatever line I decide to go with.

[clt_capt]

Originally Posted by kidconshy

Just got two Shimano 50w's and I wanted to see what mono everyone recomends to fill them with?

I was thinking Momoi hi catch or the hi catch diamond, is there a difference between the two and if so which is better?I was also thinking about the Suffix superior and the Jinkai mono.

The other thing is what lb test to put on there after I decide what brand.The reels will be used mainly for sharking as I dont do much fishing for tuna,that being said is there a prefrence on what lb test to use for what its intended use is?

I was thinking of going with 60lb which will give me about 700yards on the spool.I think if I go 80lbs it will be around 550yards. I will also be using 250lb Basil wind on leaders to whatever line I decide to go with.

I have used both the Suffix and the Momoi Hi-Catch. I prefer the Hi-Catch as it doesn't seem to have the memory that Suffix did. I spool my 50Ws with 60Lb.

If I were able to fish more often, I would probably change out the line more often (usually every winter) but I make sure to cut it back after each trip.

[kidconshy]

Capt, is it the hi catch or the hi catch diamond?

[fishskipper]

I think the moimo or the suffix are both good line. I like the high vis suffix to be able to see a little better. I use 80 on my 50's....130 to 150 on my 80's

[Kodi's_Options]

I fish mostly tuna. But I go with Diamond 100lb on my 2 tiagra 50's. I suggest spooling it 1/2 to 3/4 with Jerry Brown spectra then adding a top shot of heavier mono. 60lb is a bit light for bigger fish in my opinion especially if you are going to lock that reel down on a big mako or thresher, and you save a lot of money over the next 10 years, by not having to change all that mono on the spool that you rarely see or use. Also you'll get more line with 130lb spectra with a 100lb mono topshot then you will with straight 60lb mono. Costs more initially but over the next few years you'll save big on not having to replace a full spool of mono.

[floridadeckie]

I use hi-vis suffix 50# on my tiagra 50lrs's

[shoefish]

[quote=Kodi's_Options;252577] I suggest spooling it 1/2 to 3/4 with Jerry Brown spectra then adding a top shot of heavier mono. QUOTE]

This is good advice, and is something that you should consider. In addition to greater reel capacity, the ability to lock down the drag if you need to, smaller annual cost to change out line (after each big fish or at the end of the year), another thing to think about is if you will ever be kite fishing for sharks. If you are, that spectra line will give you the ability to put a short wind on leader directly to the spectra and hang a big bluefish from a kite. Also, should you ever want to get to the canyons or fish for bluefin, you'll be ready to go.

[Gut Wrench]

[quote=shoefish;252763]

Originally Posted by Kodi's_Options

I suggest spooling it 1/2 to 3/4 with Jerry Brown spectra then adding a top shot of heavier mono. QUOTE]

This is good advice, and is something that you should consider. In addition to greater reel capacity, the ability to lock down the drag if you need to, smaller annual cost to change out line (after each big fish or at the end of the year), another thing to think about is if you will ever be kite fishing for sharks. If you are, that spectra line will give you the ability to put a short wind on leader directly to the spectra and hang a big bluefish from a kite. Also, should you ever want to get to the canyons or fish for bluefin, you'll be ready to go.

yep this is how all my avet 50's are done and all 4 of my avet 30's is done the same way...so far i have been happy,i also feel it will be cheaper in the long run..

[z71offshore]

Diamond Line-Hi Vis Yellow-60lb. 1000 yd. Spool-.80mm dia. Avg. Break Strength- 92lbs!

http://www.meltontackle.com/catalog/...mond_Line.html

This is what I prefer, although i've got a lot of different brands on my reels.

(guess you might want to conisder whether you want igfa legal line or not also.)

[ifish42na]

Consider 600-700 yards of 130lb hollow spectra backing, this will allow for a variety of topshot/wind-on options tailored to any type of offshore fishing you are doing now or might do in the future.

Here's a general note that you may find helpful. Give me a call if you have any specific questions:

What sizes does Jerry Brown hollow spectra come in and what is the comporable mono size that they mimic

Line One hollow spectra comes in 60-80-100-130-200-300-500-800-1000lb test. Mono equivalents are 20-25-30-40-60-130-200-300-400lb

thinking of refilling next year with 75% braid with a top shot of mono...will be put on 50s... do you use uni to uni or Chinese finger?

Since this is hollow line, a whole range of knotless connections and splices can be made. No knots to fail. As your mono topshot wears out, just replace it with another, yet keep that hollow backing on your reel for years to come. I have some reels going into their 8th season. The most I ever had to do is re-splice my end loop, or strip off 20-30 yards and splice on a new section of hollow line. Splice that is, no knot. 100% line strength.

A common question is why can't I just insert the mono topshot right into my main line? After all, I only fish 80lb test. The answer is, yes you can do that but when it comes time to change that topshot, it will take you quite a bit of time to do it, and you won't be doing it on the boat. The second approach and the one I prefer is the use of a loop-to-loop connection. That is, splice a 100% end loop on the end of your reel's main line. This is not a bimini or some other knot, it is a way to invert the line into itself and then lock it, so the spliced end loop cannot pull out. Here is a link to an excellent 3 page thread on that topic.

OK, once you have that loop on your reel, you put a second piece of spectra on the back of your mono topshot, with another loop. You can pre-make these in the winter or buy them pre-made, and have them ready to go. Changing a topshot using a loop-to-loop connection is simple and takes just under a minute. You can easily do this on a boat if you have to, getting you right back into the game with a brand new full reel of line, with no knots to fail.

Still, some anglers go back and say, well that sounds like a lot of work too, and I’m still going to insert my mono right into the main line. That works, but like I said, you're not going to be changing that connection to easily if you have to. The rod will most likely be set into a rod holder until you get back to the dock. The other major advantage of L-2-L connections is the ability to connect hollow spectra backing to a mono topshot that you could not possibly insert into your main line. For example, a hot shark tournament setup developed by a very well-known NJ charter captain is using a 25-foot 530lb X-HARD wind-on leader connected to his reel's main spectra line via a L-2-L connection, crimped to his shark rig. No topshot at all. You would never be able to insert 530lb mono into your spectra, but with loop connections you have a wide range of options depending on what you're fishing for. After shark season, cut off the wind-on and loop on a topshot. Getting into a mad-dog bigeye bite and wish you had heavier line? Cut off that 80b topshot and loop on a 130lb'er in seconds. Snag a pot or tangle? Cut off the old, loop on a new. Taking your reels out west to do some long-range fishing with short heavy topshots? Same drill.

Line One has just come out with a 100lb hollow braid line that will test well under 130lb for strict IGFA rule fishing, and still allow you to splice your connections. Spectra should be wound on tight, using 6-8lb of even, consistent drag. Use a Heiliger super-knot, aka double sandiego knot, for arbor connections.

Tools required for working with this line and making your own splices are a good set of needles to insert mono, some #7 wire to make loop puller or line splicing needles, and some adhesives and serving tools. The point where the mono enters the spectra will have to be secured with what is known as a serve. Methods of serving monofilament to hollow spectra involve applying the traditional time-tested and still very good half hitches of waxed floss sealed with adhesive, or using an ultra thin spectra thread, applied under pressure, using a spinning bobbin. The result is a strong, low profile serve, designed to prevent the spectra from moving relative to the mono. The finger-trap will hold the mono inside the hollow line, but the serve is absolutely necessary to keep everything in place.

One final note: Since it's so easy to replace your topshot, do it often!! Don't try to use the same topshot all season long. If you get into fish, tangles, etc, swap it out! It's the best and least-expensive insurance against failures. We all spend a ton of money to get out to the Edge, make sure that your line and connections are in the best shape possible so when that wolf-pack hits, you're ready.