Loop Knots?

[aquaboy]

All - when do you use loop knots/double lines (e.g. bimini twist) when trolling for dolphin/wahoo/tuna? What are the advantages of a loop as opposed to tying your swivel (or whatever terminal tackle you prefer) directly to your main line? How big do you typically tie your loops and why?

Thanks in advance for any help!

[Bwana Bill]

1) What are the advantages of a loop as opposed to tying your swivel directly to your main line?

2) How big do you typically tie your loops and why?

1) stronger knot

2) close to around 8' because my rods are about 5' long from the reel to the roller tip.......

the reason being is to allow the angler to get a coupla wraps of the doulbled line onto the reel as the swivel comes up to the rod tip thus allowing him to increase drag and control the fish with greater pressure to position the leader where the leaderman can grab it and take over....... for me this mostly for marlin using straight mono (and mostly important for standup fishing as opposed to fighting from the chair)

with the exception of giant bluefin, bigeye, and big YFT you'd be fine with something shorter (2-r-3-r-maybe even 4') and getting the doubled line on the reel shouldn't be as important since you've increased your knot strength at the terminal connection

look at the IGFA rules http://www.igfa.org/BookRule2004.pdf as a guideline and just consider that everything that pushes their limits or exceeds'em gives the angler a better advantage......

[Fortunamate]

doubling your line has its pros and cons like a pro is that one side of the double can break and you still have the other side and you can land the fish. also a con of this is when your leadering you have a greater chance to get your hand cought in the double. we make ours about 6 to 10 feet

[rarhomes]

The ONLY way to achieve a connection greater than the line strength is to start off with a double line made with a Bimini. This is extremely important with light lines 2,4,6, 8, 10# test etc.

If are using 50# mono with 25# of drag tied to a SS with a 60% clinch knot you are fine. On the other hand if you are using 10# line with 8# of drag with a 60% clinch knot you get the picture ?

Capt Rick

[gottaflylee]

Humm, very interesting here guys. I have stopped making long Biminis for many reasons. Found for me it is better to use a short 1' or less and Albright the leader line into it. This is a strong way to connect main lines to leader lines and goes through the guides very well...

[rarhomes]

Humm, very interesting here guys. I have stopped making long Biminis for many reasons. Found for me it is better to use a short 1' or less and Albright the leader line into it. This is a strong way to connect main lines to leader lines and goes through the guides very well...

Mr. Gottaflylee,

You are right on, long doubles have no use anymore since the windon leaders have been invented. 1' - 2' are more than enough.


Capt Rick

[Bwana Bill]

Mr. Gottaflylee,

long doubles have no use anymore since the windon leaders have been invented.

Capt Rick

how fast can you swap out lures "when trolling for dolphin/wahoo/tuna" using the windon leaders <vs> a snap swivel?

[rarhomes]

how fast can you swap out lures "when trolling for dolphin/wahoo/tuna" using the windon leaders <vs> a snap swivel?

Unless I am fishing for tunas I always use a SS with a 5' to 8'
leader.

Capt. Rick