Big Game trolling lures

[flatbottom]

What trolling lures have you noticed having a diminished action, when rigging a double hook rig ?
were the hooks rigged in line or had an offset to each other....
thanks..flat

[Proheat]

If I had an answer for you buddy, I'd surely give it to ya.

Hopefully someone can help answer your question!!

[flatbottom]

Thanks ProHeat.

[Deep C]

Flat its a grat question... Yes I see diminished action from doubles. I also see a more sinister problem. The skirts get fouled far more frequently. The action reduction is more noticable in offsets than 180 rigs. The stiffness of the rig and all that hook gets in the way of the skirts natural flow.
Ever stood outside on a windy day wearing loose fitting pants? You can see how the pant presses against the leg on the upwind side while flapping on the down wind side. Well, as a lure zigs and zags in its cadence there is a "high pressure" side and a 'low pressure' or vacum side. Instead of free flapping its impeeded by all that hard ware.
My serious lures are all rigged single and only semi stiff. I also try to get as much hook away from skirt as possible so the skirt can ebb and flow naturally...

[flatbottom]

thanks deep c

[Reveille75]

One of the scariest things in the world is a marlin with one hook in his jaw and the other one flying around at the end of a 6 inch piece of cable. Not only is it difficult to make a two hook rig swim good, it makes it very dangerous for us tag and release folks.
David

[BlueH20Boss]

The easiest remedy for this problem is to use single hook rigs. I know double hooks = double the hookup chance when a bite occurs, but if you have a crappy looking presentation in the spread, then that bite % goes down anyways.

[ancient mariner]

HI:
I'm not using them anymore for most pelagics.
I've had to run 60+ miles home with a hook thru my hand or theu a deckhands body part . Too darned dangerous for me, I single hook worked well for me when I was pin hooking for Tuna.
the other thing mentioned above was the problem with hook fouling the skirt or vice versa. Had interseting talks about double hooks and I was in the minority when it came to MARLIN fishing. Since I really specialize in that I feel that the others with a hexx of a lot more experience could talk about that.
I saw a few a Marlin bill hooked . Talk about a fish going crazy.....WOW.
I wonder if those bill hooked MARLIN when released survived? I don't know.
Maybe the MARLIN PROS can answer the DOUBLE HOOK QUESTION.
I'll stick with a single hook for all other pelagics.
WACKM 'N STACKM
Joseph B...aka...Ancient Mariner
www.ancientmarinertackle.com

[Patudo]

Two hook rigs add weight to the lure. As such they will have an effect on pretty much any lure that you put them into. Basically to compensate for the extra weight a lure troller can do one of several things of which the most basic are (1) Troll faster (2) Raise the lure higher in the rigger (3) Lighten up the skirt, all of which will cause the lure to act more aggressively. It works both ways, in that I found some of my favourite lures became more flighty when I tried them with a single hook. I know one captain who bores out a cavity into the lower half of his lure heads and adds some lead to compensate for losing the weight of the front hook.

The orientation of the hooks in a two hook rig is important because the wrong orientation can throw the lure off balance. The hook or hooks in a lure rig have a rudder effect and if not oriented right can really screw up the action of your lure. This is different to the weight factor in two hook vs one hook rigs and is really a separate subject in itself.

Regards

P.

[ancient mariner]

Hi Mr P:
WOW, when the guys on here are willing to part with HARD WON expertise, it sure helps the rest of us out.
I'm glad theres little of you know what . It's a pleasure in teaching and BEING taught lessons on fishing. ZOUWEEEE!!
I like the 2nd para on your last. I found that I also had to adjust the hook placement when I ran a two(2) hook setup. To Me it wasn't worth the extra effort on Tuna and especially on a Mahi or some such that come into the boat and slings that double hook all over the place. To scary for me. I don't like cutting a hook in half and pushing the "STUCK PART" through a fishermans hand or leg or wherever.
Intersteing thought on the two (2) hook setup adding weight
to your lure.MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I like that too. never thought about that aspect.MUCHO GRACIAS on that one.
Now, I'm going to try and set down this winter between shows and aseminars and put together something for our readers here on SPOTRFISHERMEN. May I call on you for your expertise in two hook rigs ?
WACKM 'N STACKM
Joseph B...aka...Ancient Mariner
www.ancientmarinertackle.com