Accurate Boss Series

[Parapapam]

Can some one walk me through the differences in the Accurate Boss Series reels? I can't decipher the code? I think "X" means 6:1 retrieve, obviously "w" is wide... "E" I think is single speed...?

But I'm stumped after that.

The other question is where can I find drag data for these reels? I think the 665 pull 35 pounds at strike, but I'm not sure.... what about the other numbers in the line?

It shouldn't be this confusing..... Both these guys and Avet need to find a more "Market friendly" way to name their products...

Mike

[Seaker]

I have to run but will answer your questions tonight

the admiral is having a little tune up and I have to pick her up at Tobey

[Parapapam]

Vin,

Hope all is well with the boss.

Mike

[Seaker]

Can some one walk me through the differences in the Accurate Boss Series reels? I can't decipher the code? I think "X" means 6:1 retrieve, obviously "w" is wide... "E" I think is single speed...?

But I'm stumped after that.

The other question is where can I find drag data for these reels? I think the 665 pull 35 pounds at strike, but I'm not sure.... what about the other numbers in the line?

It shouldn't be this confusing..... Both these guys and Avet need to find a more "Market friendly" way to name their products...

Mike

This should help you out. It's really quite simple but like life sometimes things get lost in translation.

X (your correct) means 6:1 retrive ratio
No X means 4:1 retrive ratio

N means narrow spool
W means wide spool

E series would indicate a generation or improvment over unit #1
Stay with me on this say you have an older version you purchased and used it for a season or two. You send it back to the factory for a tune a lube. If there have been improvments in the internals your reel is upgraded.

ATD always means the micrometer adjust trolling reels

SR is the new line of spinning reels

A word about drag
In my opinion you don't see drag numbers published so not to get into the oh this has more than that discussion. The number you mentioned is easily achieved on that model. Other probelms arise with very heavy drag settings especially when loaded with braid whichthese products handle so very well. It's just tough to load a reel so tightly that given a huge drag setting your not cutting into itself on the spool but not to worry.

The drags on the reels on Seaker have been flawless and so smooth. The settings stay put fish after fish and have never developed a case of sticky drag. We don't treat them anyway special with exotic lubes or the like. They get washed down well with Salt Away and when dry get a wipe down with corrosion X. We have had no pitting in over four years of service from the 665 XWC and this season we really put the 50W ATD to the test and finished off with the 80W.

One very important point about drag before I leave this topic. I honestly feel that too many fish are lost (SBFT, YFT and LFT) due to excessive drag at strike. By strike I mean where the lever is set while your spread is out and not at the strike or stop position. Hooks get pulled and stuff happens but with light drag settings in the spread our strike to boat ratio has been excellent. Very sharp hooks also help tremendously.

Where you live close by please feel free to test any of the product over here.

Thanks a bunch for asking about the Admiral. She is doing fine after her procedure.

[Parapapam]

Vin,

Thanks for this tutorial. After two frustrating trips north, I am getting more and more convinced that jigging is the way to go (especially after the dawn bite on Stellwagon). I got on station late and trolled with no joy, despite marking fish down deep. This is why I am looking at Accurates.

I know you and Shoe had a lot of success in the Canyons this year with this technique as well. I gave it a shot with LB in the canyons, but I didn't have the patience to stick with it. Our squids where getting hit fairly well by yft and swords at the time so we stuck to traditional methods.

Have you tried this out east or do you think the doggies would be too bad? It seems to me that night time jigging is an untapped method for our eastern fishery.... But I haven't given it a shot yet.

Mike

[Seaker]

Nice thing about fishing Mike when your getting bit; It's all good! When your not, well, we are no longer catching and we are back to fishing. Here's my so far opinon and that's all it is. I have always been a somewhat traditionalist so I am possibly slow to change. My first take was the entire thing was a flash in the pan, pass the butters please. When the guys began to outfish the meat ( I honestly never thought you would hear me say that) well brother pass the cool aide. It's real for certain and yes it works. Why it also works at night when I never thought it would had me eating my words. I honestly believe that Mike D had a sword on that night on Shoe's set up. He's what really convinced me three different guys took Shoe's set up and all got tight. Two had never tried the technique before that night!

I know for a fact it works on the Bank and East of Chatham during the day. Those guys don't stay out all night like we do in the canyons but if it worked in the canyons I am certain it will work elsewhere. There is no chunk bite that could be considered fishable on the bank or up north due to the doggies which leaves only trolling or jigging.

I really like all styles of fishing and admit to love the troll but at night when I get down from the helm I can relax and I love that also. I think a couple of things come into play
Fuel is very expensive no matter what you have and we tend to run long.
We have to maximize our attempts because we just burnt off the fuel
If they want the troll then give em da spread
If they want the meat then give em da meat
If the want to get jiggy wid it then give em da fly

Be a boy scout and always be prepared

You can't troll 60 feet down with out a sniper set up
You can't chunk in dogville
You can give me da jig

We burn off about 1500 in fuel for our canyon runs and we need to make these trips pay off for everyone so we load her up and we now carry more gear. I can't afford to let my charters down.

Paul on this board is very active with rod building for this new technique and I hope he chimes in.

Again Mike I have the 665XWC at the cottage if you like to try it.

Hope this helps

Vin

[paul708]

on a jig rod lifting 26#..give jigging a try.. either the short rod fast jigging or a longer rod jig system..either way you will put fish in the boat..the 665 is a great reel

[Parapapam]

Again Mike I have the 665XWC at the cottage if you like to try it.

Thanks Vin. That is a very nice offer.

I have to try and make a go of it with the equipment I have before I sink more money into it. Right now I have two Avet LX's that I've strung with 500or more yards of 65 # PP. I am matching them up with some 5 foot rods that I have with a blank from St. Croix, E-Glass (20-40 fast tip).

My concern is that the Avet's 4:1 retreive is slow for this style of fishing. That is why I am thinking about the Accurates. But first I need to make a go with this gear before I invest in more...

I know you (Terry and Chris) are not a big fans of Avet's, but do you think I can be successful with the gear I have or should I send them to Ebay and buy the Accurates?

Paul, I like the pic. My boys are 8 and 9 and I'm still trying to get them on the right bluefin for them to handle. This years bunch of 47 inchers up by us where too big.

Mike

[Seaker]

Mike start with what you have. No need to go out and spend extra while your making decesions especially with young guys to bring up right now.

I think you'll be just fine and after you get a few under your belt you will naturally migrate the equipment to optimize yourself. I think that is all something we need to keep mind of. Some gear will optimize an effort but is not totally mission critical to catch fish. Time on the water is and fishing where there are fish are.

Shoe's rod was the hot set up and the main difference between his and the opter rod was his was noodley soft and the hook up ratio with the super soft rod won while the other rod got hit the hook up ratio was better with Shoe's.

Now if we can ever figure out which jigs are the balls we can save enough money for more stuff Your welcome to my gear any time Mike while we are on shore.

[paul708]

you can use the reel and should be fine. the rod at 20-40 may be a little light..but it sounds like a great starter out fit..the 4:1 is ok. its great that you are starting the young ones out..i hope they stick with it. and get some nice fiish jigging next year, good luck