Finally fished the kayak! - Page 2

SeaBiscuit · 07-04-2007, 09:27 AM

Good stuff Wave Loudly. I hope you have many fun times fishing your kayak.
Regarding the single hook on a plug, I think Flatdog gave good advice. We often remove all trebles from our minnow baits (mirrorlures, rapalas, yo zuris etc) and replace them with a single J hook at the tail ring. You can find these J hooks with a ring built in. Those work best. Otherwise, a split ring will do.
Enjoy your new rig!
SeaBiscuit

Wave Loudly · 07-04-2007, 10:21 AM

Thanks again folks!!

I figured the answer to my question would be the tail, makes sense when ou noodle it, but since my little gray cells get overcooked easily, I thought I'd ask the guys that log in more time on the water (not to say your waterlogged in the noodling department... LOL) I think I'll be putting some time into modifying some lures....

Now for another question. (I love to ask them don't I?? LOL) If your not familiar with the way the drive system works on the Hobie pedal yaks, they a "flippers" that goe from flat against the boat to stickling straight down, and sort of "skull" the water. (I think they have a video of it on the web site, but don't ask the blind guy if it shows it better than I describe it, though that ain't hard to do! LOL) The Outfitter is a tandem, so there are two drive units, one for each person. Trolling is fine for the back rod holders, or the fornt, but running lines out of both gets dicy. The front lines have to be out away from the boat for turning and keeping them out of the drives. Putting outrigger poles on a yak is a little over kill (though the thought has crossed my mind!!) The stern lines can be closer to the boat. What do you think of me putting a couple of clips, like flat lines on the ster of your boats, along the sides just aft of the drive, where the boat's shape will keep them out of the rudder? That way both people in the boat could have at least one line ut trolling, maybe two. This is probably over kill, but if you're rigging out to catch fish, why not think these things through a little?? LOL

Oh, and to answer your question Box, actually it is best to just leave your text basic. If I'm not using the speech reader part of my software, I have it set to magnify and invert colors. Which is why on the days that I can look at the site with my eyes, I can't look at pictures posted. They become like negatives (You remember those, from back in the days when cameras had film... LOL) But thanks for asking! I will let you know if there are ways to make it easier for me up her on hte best fishing site on the web. I know that you all love to help out where you can!

carom · 07-04-2007, 10:38 AM

Wave, you the man bro!, you're really rocking the house...keep it up and enjoy yourself....

Flatdog · 07-04-2007, 03:53 PM

Wave good question there, might pay to fish 2 longer rods up front some nice 12 foot 3 1/2lb test curves should handle what you are fishing for, shimmano make some for crap fishing in europe double up real nice as lite sea sticks can hold about 3oz lead if you want, otherwise, just finished reading an article here in the UK on just this, the guys ended up using the tide and wind just picking there spots with a bit of a rip, 5-7 knots tidal rip, set the yak side ways and drift,all rods off one side

flatbottom · 07-04-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WAHOONBOX

WAY TO ROCK IN THERE WAVE'!!!! HOLEY COW! AND WE COMPLAIN SOMETIMES ABOUT THE SMALLEST THINGS!! YOU ARE MY IDOL DUDE!!!

AND PALEEEESE.....DON'T STAY GONE SO LONG FROM THE BOARD!

ONE QUESTION: DOES IT HELP YOU READ THE PRINT HERE IF WE INCREASE THE FONT SIZE?

I KNOW YOU HAVE A SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO READ THIS BUT WAS JUST CURIOUS DUDE!

Marty I duno if it helped wave but it helped me. I sit in a recliner about 5 foot from the monitor.

Wave congrats man. How stable was the yack? moving and stationary?

Capt. Brian Daley · 07-04-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flatdog

Wave good question there, might pay to fish 2 longer rods up front some nice 12 foot 3 1/2lb test curves should handle what you are fishing for, shimmano make some for crap fishing in europe double up real nice as lite sea sticks can hold about 3oz lead if you want, otherwise, just finished reading an article here in the UK on just this, the guys ended up using the tide and wind just picking there spots with a bit of a rip, 5-7 knots tidal rip, set the yak side ways and drift,all rods off one side

Six foot rods are about the max you want to use on a yak so you can bring the fish to you our you'll be reaching out to crab the line (than splash) and you can see the fish eye to eye LOL, when drifting I use a small sea anchor
since most of my kayaking is in the ocean but using a 3lb anchor can cause the yak to over turn you have to be careful w/anchoring use a pulliny system
along side the yak

Dave Sikorski · 07-04-2007, 10:19 PM

Wave, congrats on your yak success!!!

Take some J hooks, tie a little bucktail on them, and replace the back trebles on crankbaits and plugs. Take the treble hooks and bend the points all towards the middle. That way it doesn't effect the balance of the lure, but won't stick in your hands, legs, etc.

Also try rubber swim baits for trolling. tandem or single rigged.

While yak fishing you should alway have a bait trolling behind you. You never know when you might come accross a hungry fish.

Good luck with your adventures, and keep us updated. Watch out for those pilings!!

-D

Wave Loudly · 07-04-2007, 10:41 PM

Yeah, rod size is key to the yak. I'm having fun landing fish with the 6'6" rods I've been using, and I'm wondering what it's going to be like when I "graduate" to using the fly rod (9')! Any one want to buy tickets to show??? LOL (my buddy who has been sitting second seat tells me that I have to wait until he can figure out a suit of armor that won't sink the boat. LOL)

I've got the drift thing close to down pat. I don't have the pulley system installed yet, i's in the works. (I want smeone with eyes around when I install that.) But, the advantage of a tandem is that there are two people and the anchor line is easily passed. I just was thinking of putting out a "spread" as we move from spot to spot. I've heard of yakkers trolling, but they are all solo guys. I was thiking that it might be a hoot if we had several lies out for the day when we cross an unseen school of fish... You know how much fun those multiple knock downs can be!!

Oh, I forgot to answer Captain Brian's question, I did check into the battery system you spoke of. I decided to go with a single battery. A little more weight, but not so many parts for me. (You should see me deal with replacing the batteries in a remote.... I end up dropping them on the floor and playing a mad game of blind man's bluff trying to find them!!) I'm als going to be putting some lights on the yak, and wasn't too sure how the charge on the other system that you are talking about would do with both lights and electronics. Knowing me, I'll end up following your advice later, after I cuss myself out for not figuring out how to deal with it all now. LOL

Wave Loudly · 07-04-2007, 10:45 PM

Flatbottom, ROFL. I didn't want to tell Marty that even I had to back off the screen with his post.... LOL

Dave, thanks, I'll try that!

GRogers · 01-14-2009, 11:59 AM

That's really cool! I have always wanted to go fishing on a kayak, but I think maybe I should get better at kayaking. Anyone have any pointers?

07-04-2007, 10:45 PM	#19
Wave Loudly Sit down Shut up And fish Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 450 Boat: Hobie Outfitter Kayak	Flatbottom, ROFL. I didn't want to tell Marty that even I had to back off the screen with his post.... LOL Dave, thanks, I'll try that! Last edited by Wave Loudly; 07-04-2007 at 10:48 PM.

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07-04-2007, 10:21 AM	#12
Wave Loudly Sit down Shut up And fish Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 450 Boat: Hobie Outfitter Kayak	Thanks again folks!! I figured the answer to my question would be the tail, makes sense when ou noodle it, but since my little gray cells get overcooked easily, I thought I'd ask the guys that log in more time on the water (not to say your waterlogged in the noodling department... LOL) I think I'll be putting some time into modifying some lures.... Now for another question. (I love to ask them don't I?? LOL) If your not familiar with the way the drive system works on the Hobie pedal yaks, they a "flippers" that goe from flat against the boat to stickling straight down, and sort of "skull" the water. (I think they have a video of it on the web site, but don't ask the blind guy if it shows it better than I describe it, though that ain't hard to do! LOL) The Outfitter is a tandem, so there are two drive units, one for each person. Trolling is fine for the back rod holders, or the fornt, but running lines out of both gets dicy. The front lines have to be out away from the boat for turning and keeping them out of the drives. Putting outrigger poles on a yak is a little over kill (though the thought has crossed my mind!!) The stern lines can be closer to the boat. What do you think of me putting a couple of clips, like flat lines on the ster of your boats, along the sides just aft of the drive, where the boat's shape will keep them out of the rudder? That way both people in the boat could have at least one line ut trolling, maybe two. This is probably over kill, but if you're rigging out to catch fish, why not think these things through a little?? LOL Oh, and to answer your question Box, actually it is best to just leave your text basic. If I'm not using the speech reader part of my software, I have it set to magnify and invert colors. Which is why on the days that I can look at the site with my eyes, I can't look at pictures posted. They become like negatives (You remember those, from back in the days when cameras had film... LOL) But thanks for asking! I will let you know if there are ways to make it easier for me up her on hte best fishing site on the web. I know that you all love to help out where you can!

07-04-2007, 10:38 AM	#13
carom I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fajardo, Puerto Rico Posts: 1,265 Boat: 270 Wellcraft Coastal Home Port: Fajardo, Puerto Rico Occupation: Business Owner, Restaurant and Fishing Charters	Wave, you the man bro!, you're really rocking the house...keep it up and enjoy yourself....

07-04-2007, 03:53 PM	#14
Flatdog I think Admin is going to let me have this space Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London England Posts: 1,021 Boat: Fallen in love with Strike 37 walk around though the 44 would be the best option Home Port: weymouth Best Catch: 210kg cat fish rio de morte brazil Amazon delta Occupation: At the moment sales	Wave good question there, might pay to fish 2 longer rods up front some nice 12 foot 3 1/2lb test curves should handle what you are fishing for, shimmano make some for crap fishing in europe double up real nice as lite sea sticks can hold about 3oz lead if you want, otherwise, just finished reading an article here in the UK on just this, the guys ended up using the tide and wind just picking there spots with a bit of a rip, 5-7 knots tidal rip, set the yak side ways and drift,all rods off one side

07-04-2007, 10:19 PM	#17
Dave Sikorski Got Carpal Tunnel? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MD Posts: 4,590 Boat: Bankes Goliath 21' Home Port: Any place, any time. Best Catch: The next one Occupation: Good Question...	Wave, congrats on your yak success!!! Take some J hooks, tie a little bucktail on them, and replace the back trebles on crankbaits and plugs. Take the treble hooks and bend the points all towards the middle. That way it doesn't effect the balance of the lure, but won't stick in your hands, legs, etc. Also try rubber swim baits for trolling. tandem or single rigged. While yak fishing you should alway have a bait trolling behind you. You never know when you might come accross a hungry fish. Good luck with your adventures, and keep us updated. Watch out for those pilings!! -D

07-04-2007, 10:41 PM	#18
Wave Loudly Sit down Shut up And fish Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 450 Boat: Hobie Outfitter Kayak	Yeah, rod size is key to the yak. I'm having fun landing fish with the 6'6" rods I've been using, and I'm wondering what it's going to be like when I "graduate" to using the fly rod (9')! Any one want to buy tickets to show??? LOL (my buddy who has been sitting second seat tells me that I have to wait until he can figure out a suit of armor that won't sink the boat. LOL) I've got the drift thing close to down pat. I don't have the pulley system installed yet, i's in the works. (I want smeone with eyes around when I install that.) But, the advantage of a tandem is that there are two people and the anchor line is easily passed. I just was thinking of putting out a "spread" as we move from spot to spot. I've heard of yakkers trolling, but they are all solo guys. I was thiking that it might be a hoot if we had several lies out for the day when we cross an unseen school of fish... You know how much fun those multiple knock downs can be!! Oh, I forgot to answer Captain Brian's question, I did check into the battery system you spoke of. I decided to go with a single battery. A little more weight, but not so many parts for me. (You should see me deal with replacing the batteries in a remote.... I end up dropping them on the floor and playing a mad game of blind man's bluff trying to find them!!) I'm als going to be putting some lights on the yak, and wasn't too sure how the charge on the other system that you are talking about would do with both lights and electronics. Knowing me, I'll end up following your advice later, after I cuss myself out for not figuring out how to deal with it all now. LOL

01-14-2009, 11:59 AM	#20
GRogers Weaky wacker Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 27	That's really cool! I have always wanted to go fishing on a kayak, but I think maybe I should get better at kayaking. Anyone have any pointers?