Originally Posted by
Captain Tred Barta
Hey Tim,
Sounds like I'm quite a jerk. It also sounds like you don't think too much of me or what I believe in but I do respect your thoughts, apparently, on my entire life.
LET'S DEAL WITH THE ISSUES YOU RAISED AND AS YOU STATED, MAKE IT ABOUT THE ISSUES, NOT PERSONAL, YOU PROBABLY ARE A GOOD SHOT WITH A BOW...BUT NOT ON YOUR SHOW SOMETIMES. TRED AS MOST POSTERS ON THIS SITE, I AM SURE, DEEP DOWN, OVER A COLD BEER WE ARE 80-90% ON THE SAME PAGE, SOMETIMES E-COMMUNICATION IS NOT THE BEST FORMAT FOR DISCUSSING ISSUES.
So let me address just a couple things.
1. I have raised $1.8 million for underpriveliged kids.
SINCE WHEN WAS THIS ABOUT KIDS OR CHARITY?...MY DAD FOUNDED A MARATHON 30 YEARS AGO THAT HAS RAISED MILLION(S) FOR THE MENTALLY HANDICAPED AND BUILT GROUP HOMES, OUR FAMILY AND THOUSANDS OF VOLUNTEERS HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO MAKE THIS THE SUCCESS IT IS...AND I CAN BET THERE ARE DOZENS OF PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD WHO CAN TOP THIS...BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE OR THE PROBLEM...YES MY FAMILIY IS ACCOMPLISHED, BUT HAS NO WEALTH OR SILVER SPOONS...
2. I have demonstrated, over the last 10 years, that you CAN have large billfish tournaments with 100% release, no Calcutta, no observers, no lie detector tests, no lawsuits and still put millions of dollars into your local economy, still raise hundreds of thousands for charity. But it takes someone with enough guts to do it. I have done it.
SO YOU HAVE STAGGED A COUPLE OF SUCCESFULL TOURNAMENTS FOR CHARITY AND A GREAT CAUSE, I DO THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT WITH THIS STATEMENT NOW YOU HAVE DECLARED YOURSELF THE MORAL COMPASS FOR ALL TOURNAMENT FORMATS WITHOUT REGARD OR RESPECT FOR THE IMPACT ON ANY ONE ELSES HISTORY OR CULTURE IN FISHING. I DISAGREE WITH YOU 100% ON THIS.
Although you are entitled to your opinion; I am the guy who answers to hardly any sponsors. I'm not sure what you think I'm selling or why you even think I'm on the internet. I'm not the guy with a tv show with sponsor after sponsor after sponsor like everyone else. I am not a wealthy man and for me to turn down a couple hundred thousand dollars of sponsors a year hurts.
I THINK YOU MIS-WROTE THIS SO MAYBE YOU WANT TO RE-WRITE THIS PARAGRAPH, WITHOUT SPONSORS ALL TV AND MEDIA IS DEAD AND BOTH ENTITIES YOU SHOW UP IN REQUIRE SPONSORS.
You are absolutely correct that commercial fishing IS a major problem and it accounts for 98% of mortality for all fish; but that doesn't mean that fishermen cannot have an intelligent conversation about the negative message we're sending our future generation.
COMPLETE MISQUOTE ON YOUR PART: I SAID COMMERCIAL "OVERFISHING", THE OBVIOUS EMPHASIS IS ON "OVERFISHING" WHICH LENDS ITSELF TO THE PRACTICE OF POOR FISHERIES MANAGEMENT OR LACK THERE OF. I HAVE SEVERAL CUSTOMERS AND FRIENDS WHO SURVIVE BY COMMERCIAL FISHING AND THEY DO IT THE APPROPRIATE WAY (IN MY OPINION).
It is very easy to hide behind an internet name. It is also very easy to criticize everyone that does not believe what you believe in. But to bring up topics and stand for things that no one wants to talk about is not easy.
AGAIN, I BELIEVE YOU ARE MISTAKEN I SIGN MY NAME, PROFFESSION, E-MAIL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER TO ALL POSTINGS AND BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD DO THE SAME. (ADDITIONAL BIO, I GAVE UP WORKING FOR ONE OF THE LARGEST ENGINEERING MULTINATIONALS IN WORLD TO DO THIS...AND IT WASN'T FOR MORE MONEY...IT WAS FOR FISHING AND THERE ARE TON'S OF GUYS JUST LIKE ME...)
Most of what you say in your message could be viewed as correct. However, if someone has a different point of view, it's viewed as incorrect. I poletely request that you read this thread again.
SPELL POLITELY CORRECTLY AND I WILL READ THIS THREAD...AGAIN...WITH THE SAME CONCLUSION.
Using your real name, the name of your vessel: Please answer the following questions.
AGAIN THIS MY REAL NAME AND "NO' BOAT PROFILE IS EASILY FOUND ON THIS SITE....I REALLY WISH I WAS 'DEEP C'...HE HAS ALOT OF COOL BOATS AND IS ALOT MORE FUN TO DISAGREE WITH (ATLANTIC VS. PACIFIC LURES...WHICH IS "UNOBTAINUIM" AND NEVER ENDING!!!)
1. Hawaii has evolved as one of the greatest billfish destinations in the world. Hawaii has some of the greatest captains as well. Why doesn't Hawaii have a 100% release forum on all tournaments, giving all of the money to charity? Good question, isn't it? Please step up and answer it. FIRSTLY, I WOULD NEVER SPEAK FOR HAWAII, THAT WOULD BE HUGELY ARROGANT AND I AM NOT WORTHY. SUFFICE TO SAY HAWAII'S CULTURE IS EXTREMELY DIFFEREN'T THAN THE REST OF THE BILLFISH WORLD AS THIS IS THE ONLY CULTURE THAT DATES BACK HUNDREDS OF YEARS FOR SUSTAINING IT'S EXISTANCE ON THE OCEAN AND BILLFISH. AS WELL AS ESTABLISHING THE FIRST REAL CALCUTTA BILLFISH TOURNAMENT THE HIBT (HAWAIIAN INVITATIONAL BILLFISH TOURNAMENT). I THINK YOU HAVE TO COME HERE MEET THE PEOPLE AND FISHERMEN AND UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY AND EVOLUTION TO HAVE AN ACCURATE UNDERSTANDING, I CERTAINLY COULD NOT DO IT HERE.
I HAVE WORKED WITH SOME TOP CAPTAINS AT AN ALL RELEASE "VIDEO" TOURMENT, BUT IT'S A SLOW CHANGE, IN 5-10 YEARS IT COULD EVOLVE, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT TOURNAMENT WITHOUT DEFINATIVE SPEC'S, NOT A MORAL QUESTION, BUT A QUANTITATIVE ONE FOR DETERMINING THE OUTCOME.
2. Please speak to the children worldwide, under your real name and boat name, why it's important as grown-ups, who recognize that every conservation group specifically has found through their research that our billfish should be released, not killed, even if it means 2% of the fish killed every year.
TRED AGAIN, YOU KNOW MY NAME AND PHONE NUMBER, PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL ME...AS FAR AS CONSERVATION GOES, THE KONATOURNAMENT SERIES RUN BY JODY BRIGHT INVEST TEN'S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN TAGGING (INCLUDING SATELITE TAGS) AND MORE THAN 90% ARE RELEASED AT THE SAME TIME AS RAISING THE AWARENESS TO FISHERMEN WORLD WIDE THROUGH HIS T.V. SHOW. AT THE SAME TIME HE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF SUPPORTING HIS IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY.
3. There's no right or wrong answer here, there are opinions based on several factors, some people vote their pocket book, because they have to. The fact remains, no one is right, and no one is wrong. This topic and thread is extremely uncomfortable for everyone.
LOOK MODERN DAY CALCUTTAS DO HAVE A LAS VEGAS FEEL TO THEM, BUT THEY ARE FUNDED, SPONSORED AND SUPPORTED BY FISHERMEN AND OUTDOORSMEN WHO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THAT IS NOT WRONG...IT'S PRETTY EASY TO ARGUE IT'S MORALLY WRONG, JUST LIKE A HUNTING SHOW IS MORALLY WRONG FOR SHOWING KILLS.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Calcutta Kill Tournaments are Legal. Therefore, if you love it, do it. Still, the issue is not black and white. I've always ever thrown hardballs, not softballs. THIS
If I'm not an asset here on sportfishermen.com, I'll go away; and you can play softball once again.
In closing, I have a couple words I hope everyone reads. Everyone wants to talk about commercial fishermen, how bad they are, how they kill 98%; we all want to get together and point the finger at someone else. Let me ask you a couple questions.
If you were a commercial fishermen and you had fished your entire life just like your father and his father and so on, (by the way, which is very prevalent in Hawaii), what right do we have to end their career and destroy a tradition and way of life?
BY THE WAY CURRENT COMMERCIAL METHODOLOGY HAS DESTROYED TRADIITION HAWAIIAN TECHNICS...AGAIN THIS IS DUE TO "OVERFISHING" AND NOW LONG LINERS HAVE REPLACED HOW TENS OF THOUSANDS EARNED THEIR LIVING...NOW ONLY HUNDREDS PROFIT FROM COMMERCIAL FISHING.
Believe me, this topic of commercial fishing is going to be uncomfortable for everyone also.
YOU HAD BETTER READ UP ON THIS, IT IS A HUGE SUBJECT...THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT IT THE LESS I REALIZE I KNOW AND NEED TO EDUCATE MYSELF ABOUT.
I thank you for your comments, appreciate your candor. Tim, if we met, I'm sure we would like each other.
Warmest Personal Regards,
Tight Lines, Good Luck in your tournament season,
Captain Tred Barta
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