Grander Numbers

[tim R]

We were popping them out in the late eighties when tracy was just a little boy... Hell he still is a kid...

C'mon Deep, you know Tracy doesn't make these lures, Marlin Magic does and Marlin Parker & Gary Eoff are based in Kona, HI...Just in case you want to talk lineage on who made what first, it starts with Henry Chee in Hawaii, then George Parker (Marlin's Dad) both in Kona...This was in the 40's...So the lineage is pretty tight for the resin heads they created and Marlin has been making them for commercial sale since 1979.

Now who makes a better lure becomes open for debate. I have a very strict policy of supporting original lure makers wherever possible, but it becomes a gray area reel quick, however a quality lure maker / fisherman is easy to spot and well appreciated because they are going through the process with inspiration not duplication in mind...

If a serious lure maker is influenced by another lure maker and comes up with something similar, but with a twist I am for it. To that point if two guys in seperate parts of the world come up with similar products, so be it.

It's the knock off artists who replicate lures and try to pass them off as there own with or without a differen't name that is bothersome.

On the masher/kwagga, I still think it's closer to a Ruckus. Big Dog is Super dog with a break, a little smaller overall size, a smaller face and definitely longer...Then again I have some Henry's in the store that we call Huckus's because it's kinda close...That's the beauty of the hand made stuff, it's really cool how some shapes migrate over the years...

At the end of the day, does it run like you want it too, where you want it too AND do you catch fish?

[MarlinMoz]

As far as I know there as been 22 grander Black Marlin weighted on the Bazaruto Archipelago in Mozambique.
The largest of these was caught in November 1998 and weighted 1298 lbs.

Cheers,
Duarte

[Zutt]

Aloha Jim
As to the old man and the sea, I know of a story of a longtime fisherman in Kaneohe Hawaii that the story relates too but might be a little different. His name is Mr.CobbAdams, he had a little boat and caught a grander and didn't come in till long after dark, search crews were out and and he came in sometime in the early morning. He couldn't get the fish in so he towed it. I think it was the early 60's or 70's. Anyway take care.
Aloha
Zutt

[OllieK]

Aug / Sept 1994

Tracy Melton on the Margarita, skipper Roddy Hays, 1083 - first grander on stand up (80lb)

Jean-Paul Richard on the French Look, skipper James Roberts, 1028 & 1157 (same day)

Laurent Richard on the French Look, skipper James Roberts, 1046

Stewart Campbell on the Chunda, skipper Bark Garnsey, 1141 & 1038

Plus 2 more, unknown details

Aug 1999

John Vallon? on the Freed'Em, skipper Clay Hensley, 1004

July 2003

?,?,? 1085 (as reported on Pete Bristows website www.fishmadeira.com)

Aug 2007

?, Margarita, skippered by Januario Santos,1093

Unknown years etc, etc

Sweedish woman on the Torrpedo III, 1031

1980's? Dr. Antonio Ribeiro on the Espadim Azul, Unknown weight, but was weighed in as the first "grander" in Europe and a European record

I'm sure there are a few more from 1995-1997.

Note the 1994 catches. Thats 8 Grander Blue Marlin caught in a 3 week period. Anyone who doubts the quality of fishing on that tiny Portugues island should look at the history!

Ollie

[Deep C]

C'mon Deep, you know Tracy doesn't make these lures, Marlin Magic does and Marlin Parker & Gary Eoff are based in Kona, HI...Just in case you want to talk lineage on who made what first, it starts with Henry Chee in Hawaii, then George Parker (Marlin's Dad) both in Kona...This was in the 40's...So the lineage is pretty tight for the resin heads they created and Marlin has been making them for commercial sale since 1979.

Now who makes a better lure becomes open for debate. I have a very strict policy of supporting original lure makers wherever possible, but it becomes a gray area reel quick, however a quality lure maker / fisherman is easy to spot and well appreciated because they are going through the process with inspiration not duplication in mind...

If a serious lure maker is influenced by another lure maker and comes up with something similar, but with a twist I am for it. To that point if two guys in seperate parts of the world come up with similar products, so be it.

It's the knock off artists who replicate lures and try to pass them off as there own with or without a differen't name that is bothersome.

On the masher/kwagga, I still think it's closer to a Ruckus. Big Dog is Super dog with a break, a little smaller overall size, a smaller face and definitely longer...Then again I have some Henry's in the store that we call Huckus's because it's kinda close...That's the beauty of the hand made stuff, it's really cool how some shapes migrate over the years...

At the end of the day, does it run like you want it too, where you want it too AND do you catch fish?

The masher in no way runs like the Ruckus... I do believe Ruckus also came out years after our LNG. It runs the way I want it to and it is hand made... Its not a knock off! It started as the murray LNG and went its own direction from there constantly being refined. We had T make some for us (Kwagga) and it was brilliant stuff too. And yes hand made too! So get off that holier than thou "art" bullshit. It was born in the Atlantic raised in the Atlantic and has produced all around the world...

[dknott77]

That u can say u were popping them out when Tracy was just a kid...get real man,,I know for a fact that Marlin, Gene, Kevin,Eric, Crampton etc. had this stuff down waaaaay before you decided to take the credit.

[dknott77]

I've never heard of a monster being caught on a DEEP C lure,,,,,,Not to bash here but come on....

[Wireman]

Deepy's a legend in his own mind, please don't ruin it for him. His ego can't handle the truth even when it's proven and demonstrated that he's incorrect.

[fishvenezuela]

No Problem (1062) OCMD w/Angler Bab Farris

[Patudo]

The masher in no way runs like the Ruckus...

Pray tell us how...