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    DID YOU KNOW..

    One of my clubs I belong to just emailed this to the membership..fyi..notice the regualtion in the bottom left corner..fyi:
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    Thats twice I have heard of that reg and nobody seems to be able to find it as a reg. Good practice yes... Reg I'm not sure. The source for the supposed reg was the same each time...
    Most of our billfish are just plain released boatside. Billed and unhooked when we can. Cut off other times. We will on rare occasions lift one for a customers first billfish. If we do its usually a quick up, turn and javeline headfirst back in the water...
    We had a pretty cchunky white at Chub a couple years ago that bled like a stuck pig the whole fight. We hoisted her to make sure she wasn't hooked on the gill. Nope, roof of mouth... Any way we decided to revive her... Bleeding stopped and it took about ten full minutes for her to come all the way back. She took off like a bat out of hell finally... Still to this day have no idea what the blood was all about... But it goes to show that even though when we got her boat side she appeared cooked she went away in top shape by sticking to the revival process...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep C View Post
    Thats twice I have heard of that reg and nobody seems to be able to find it as a reg. Good practice yes... Reg I'm not sure. The source for the supposed reg was the same each time...
    Most of our billfish are just plain released boatside. Billed and unhooked when we can. Cut off other times. We will on rare occasions lift one for a customers first billfish. If we do its usually a quick up, turn and javeline headfirst back in the water...
    We had a pretty cchunky white at Chub a couple years ago that bled like a stuck pig the whole fight. We hoisted her to make sure she wasn't hooked on the gill. Nope, roof of mouth... Any way we decided to revive her... Bleeding stopped and it took about ten full minutes for her to come all the way back. She took off like a bat out of hell finally... Still to this day have no idea what the blood was all about... But it goes to show that even though when we got her boat side she appeared cooked she went away in top shape by sticking to the revival process...
    Deep- funny you should mention blood from the roof of the mouth. A few years ago while billing one, the pointer split right down the middle when I gripped it. It was almost like splitting the bill on a ballyhoo. Anyway, same thing, bled like a stuck hog and we swam it until it stopped which took forever. Ours too swam away to fight another day hopefully, but the bleeding thing,hell the bill splitting had us puzzled.

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    From the latest NOAA HMS Regs;

    Q6: What is the proper way to release a billfish?
    Under regulations at 50 CFR 635.21, a person must release a billfish caught by a hook and not retained by cutting the line near the hook or by using a dehooking device without removing the fish from the water.

    https://hmspermits.noaa.gov/other/oc...20revised2.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by clt_capt View Post
    From the latest NOAA HMS Regs;

    Q6: What is the proper way to release a billfish?
    Under regulations at 50 CFR 635.21, a person must release a billfish caught by a hook and not retained by cutting the line near the hook or by using a dehooking device without removing the fish from the water.

    https://hmspermits.noaa.gov/other/oc...20revised2.pdf
    I see what you're posting and do not doubt its validity however I have been through 50 CFR 635.21 and can't find it. The link you posted is dated 2007. The suspension of circle hook rule was in effect at its printing...
    The NMFS can kiss my furry scuppers anyway... Like the circle reg, its a "law" with no enforcement or penalty... A farce like all the crap they do...

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    Reg:

    here's what i found..

    [Code of Federal Regulations]
    [Title 50, Volume 4]
    [Revised as of October 1, 2002]
    From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
    [CITE: 50CFR635.21]

    [Page 235-238]

    TITLE 50--WILDLIFE AND FISHERIES

    DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE

    PART 635--ATLANTIC HIGHLY MIGRATORY SPECIES--Table of Contents

    Subpart C--Management Measures

    Sec. 635.21 Gear operation and deployment restrictions.

    (2) If a billfish is caught by a hook, the fish must be released by
    cutting the line near the hook or by using a dehooking device, in either
    case
    without removing the fish from the water.

    not that the billfish polie gonna care..just some readin for ya..

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    Aha! So it is there... Oh well another rule I don't intend to follow just because they mandate it...

    NMFS needs to be dismantled and shoveled under the rug someplace... A sub part of a nearly bankrupt agency with a perfect track record of consumate failure in every thing they have attempted to do...

    I sated above... "Law" is tough to call "Law" or even a rule when they propose no penalty or offer any enfocement. Further if you do not intend to posess any of the species they preside over you are not required to have a permit... And for the clincher, their authority only extends to those that do hold permits ...
    Now as a point to illustrate their profound incompetnce, I mention that they can try to tell you how to release a fish but as long as its legal length, technically we could stack em like cord wood...

    I'll continue to release 99% of my fish in the water only and if 1 % do come over the gunwale , well, they can try to catch me...then not be able to do anything about it...

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    If its a law.

    If its a law good and if not is an example to follow, but is made to release the fish in good conditions but it is matter of interpretation as the TBF is doing in his campaign just look at the photo, they are posing for a photo and not releasing a fish,

    i am in the charter business as a captain and i prefer not to take many sailfish out of the water for photos, just one per new angler or for firts billfish catch per day or per trip, with the rest of the sailfih the clients just can take pictures 5 feet from the fish wich is the long of the release stick i use for cut the leader,

    suerte,

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